WTF.. What should I have done here?

[fritzson]

Blinds 125/250


Me holding :Ad: :Kd:

(Hate to play AK)

But I call... UTG2 bet 500.
(I could have re-raise, but didn't... he would have called - I think.)

Everyone folds to BB who calls.


Flop: :Td: :Jc: :Qh:


Well, nice flop!


UTG2 bet 250

I guess he is chasing, I put him on pair at least.


I am afraid of house... and to show I have something real good
I push all in - I am straight here.... lol I was trying to prevent someone
from getting a house. If he wanted to chase... well.. pay! (My stack double his and little more). UTG2, had fold before...


BB folds!


UTG2 Calls.. :eek::eek::eek:


Turn :4h:

River: :4s:



UTG2 has :Tc: :Ts:



WTF! :(


What should I have done? slop play, bet less? Maybe it was a little overbet! :o



Please! I need a decent opinion...


I only lost half my stack, it is not a big problem, but it sucks.. lol

[ropndonkies]

nothing you can do but thank setup.com..hehe unlucky!i dont see anyone getting rid of that hand after flop!

[Survivor777]

nothing you can do but thank setup.com..hehe unlucky!i dont see anyone getting rid of that hand after flop!

I think I would have played it exactly as you did. Just fn unlucky with the board paring on turn and river :beaten: Nothing you could do imo :wave:

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[Survivor777]

:eek: ROFLMAO Blue -- You must surf the net all day LOL :D Some of your pics are priceless :wave:

[ChaseMan16]

Would have played the same way just unlucky

[CookiekDFP]

EWWWWWW...sorry about that beat..

IMO There was nothing wrong with the way you played the hand. And with opponent holding 10-10, I would guess he/she would have called your all in pre-flop.

[serzrokoko]

Unfortunatly -thats the hands you cant fold:beaten:
Always here:beaten::beaten::beaten:

[fritzson]

To be honest, I would have called that too... :o :D

But I am not sure I would hit house. LMAO....

[HOTPANTS5572]

i would have played the hand the same

[almurray]

AK always misses for me. Instafold. LMAO.

[Thaxiss]

.con strikes again.

[carpenter4]

i think u played the hand ok
but i dont understand...when u said you was worried about a full house
on a rainbow non paired flop with the nut stright????
my play i think is flat call flop push turn depending on stack sizes

IMO its very unlikely that he fills up and u shouldnt be worried about that
with that hand ....even when it was played on merge network
ur %65 on flop and %77 on turn.... thats knowing for sure he has tripps

gl...e1

[fritzson]

i think u played the hand ok
but i dont understand...when u said you was worried about a full house
on a rainbow non paired flop with the nut stright????
my play i think is flat call flop push turn depending on stack sizes

IMO its very unlikely that he fills up and u shouldnt be worried about that
with that hand ....even when it was played on merge network
ur %65 on flop and %77 on turn.... thats knowing for sure he has tripps

gl...e1


Somehow, my top hands on flop seems to end up to be someone else's flush or house after river. Always a brutal turn or river. :rolleyes:

Well, when it comes to math, I haven't done my homework on that part yet.:beaten:

[DADuhWEEwah]

If you were the SB I would also flat call pre, unless he has under 20 BB then I make a reraise, if u were in position I reraise any raise with AK almost, except a raise thats been reraised already then I may muck my hand sometimes.

You cant play scare of someone making a boat, I will tell you why you sayign this is silly.

If you have an opponent that has a set like in this hand he is going to pay any bet you make.

If you have an opponent who is weak with 1 pair, or maybe K10 KJ, why not extract chips from him.

Shoving is only goin g to be called by a hand that will prob reshove if you raise anyways.

So you saying protecting vs a boat is kind of a nonsense statement. You gave yourself no chance to pick up extra chips from a hand that is drawing nearly dead, and forced the same result as if you were trying to get value from a weaker hand since 101010 will not muck here anyways.

[fritzson]

If you were the SB I would also flat call pre, unless he has under 20 BB then I make a reraise, if u were in position I reraise any raise with AK almost, except a raise thats been reraised already then I may muck my hand sometimes.

You cant play scare of someone making a boat, I will tell you why you sayign this is silly.

If you have an opponent that has a set like in this hand he is going to pay any bet you make.

If you have an opponent who is weak with 1 pair, or maybe K10 KJ, why not extract chips from him.

Shoving is only goin g to be called by a hand that will prob reshove if you raise anyways.

So you saying protecting vs a boat is kind of a nonsense statement. You gave yourself no chance to pick up extra chips from a hand that is drawing nearly dead, and forced the same result as if you were trying to get value from a weaker hand since 101010 will not muck here anyways.


Thanks for your input DaDu..

I was in middle position..

When I pushed all in my thought was: Go away!
I would have been happy with the existing on about 2k.

Anyway done is done...

[bluelips]

getting it arrin with the nuts is a winning play in texas holdem imo :threadcat:

[muzza1]

I think I would tend to agree with Dads assessment here, but it's a hard one to decide. Push too hard and you may not get paid off don't push and get sucked out on. I prefer to push the turn when the odds make it a really bad call, but I think this would have ended up the same way whatever you did:cool:

[fritzson]

I think I would tend to agree with Dads assessment here, but it's a hard one to decide. Push too hard and you may not get paid off don't push and get sucked out on. I prefer to push the turn when the odds make it a really bad call, but I think this would have ended up the same way whatever you did:cool:


I was thinking about that too afterwards, if I just raise a few blinds, get him to pay less then half stack on flop, and push all in on turn.. that would make a very expensive river card for him to improve his hand and he might fold (he was a tight player and had folded earlier)... unless he didn't put me on 2 pair or 1 pair.

At same time... trips can be hard to fold. I am sure I would have called anyway. Well, I am just a fish... :D


It sucks with 44 on turn and river... lol ... little funny thou...


Thanks for input.

[King752]

i forgot how to play poker. i've been making too much money playing live

[ChrisGill]

I play it exactly the same.

[bluelips]

lol @ gill

like he ever does anything than go arrin pre with AK

[muzza1]

lol @ gill

like he ever does anything than go arrin pre with AK

Not nice to give a way his plays blue, that's like me posting his allin post flop is coz he's totally missed and is holding nothing ... oops:beaten:

[ChrisGill]

You are both correct!

[Laagen13]

if u were in position I reraise any raise with AK almost, except a raise thats been reraised already then I may muck my hand sometimes.
+1
RR pre. if you often continue bets after a RR pre, CB this time to, try to build a pot and get it all in on flop/turn.

Don't really understand when ppl say "I would have played it exactly the same". Flat call AKs in position, and then shove with the nuts on the flop. A waste of a good hand imo.

[fritzson]

+1
RR pre. if you often continue bets after a RR pre, CB this time to, try to build a pot and get it all in on flop/turn.

Don't really understand when ppl say "I would have played it exactly the same". Flat call AKs in position, and then shove with the nuts on the flop. A waste of a good hand imo.

Interesting,... I think I agree, I just didn't play that way, it could have worked out better... maybe. Thanks again for you input Laagen.

[ChrisGill]

+1
RR pre. if you often continue bets after a RR pre, CB this time to, try to build a pot and get it all in on flop/turn.

Don't really understand when ppl say "I would have played it exactly the same". Flat call AKs in position, and then shove with the nuts on the flop. A waste of a good hand imo.

If you flat call then you can fold when the ace doesn't come and save chips.
Gotta shove because he might have 2 pair and always lose with straight

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[DADuhWEEwah]

If you flat call then you can fold when the ace doesn't come and save chips.
Gotta shove because he might have 2 pair and always lose with straight

You can also bluff 1010> .... off a hand with any overcards on the board and if they make the hero call you are still only a 3-1 dog typically, or pick up a FD backdoor FD backdoor broadway or something that gives your hand value.

Take control of the hand if you can at all times

[bluelips]

gill is just being an ass imo

[DADuhWEEwah]

i <3 ass, just not gills

[bluelips]

+1

[DADuhWEEwah]

pervert

[bluelips]

no u

[ChrisGill]

k i lied, i don't play it same

[xxxpokerbabexxx]

donkey.com

[DADuhWEEwah]

donkey.com

pervert

[ChrisGill]

pervert

NOYOU

[DADuhWEEwah]

noyoucantnoyou me

[bluelips]

plus i already did that imo :mad:

[JrMontana08]

donkey.com

Named after you :rolleyes:

[lars2879]

I thought i was the only one that **** happened to... a big online poker room conspiracy against me... LOL i feel better now because i would have played that the same way, but it seems like its always a Ace high flush stealing my chips...

[LTUFlawless]

Blinds 125/250


Me holding :Ad: :Kd:

(Hate to play AK)

But I call... UTG2 bet 500.
(I could have re-raise, but didn't... he would have called - I think.)

Everyone folds to BB who calls.


Flop: :Td: :Jc: :Qh:


Well, nice flop!


UTG2 bet 250

I guess he is chasing, I put him on pair at least.


I am afraid of house... and to show I have something real good
I push all in - I am straight here.... lol I was trying to prevent someone
from getting a house. If he wanted to chase... well.. pay! (My stack double his and little more). UTG2, had fold before...


BB folds!


UTG2 Calls.. :eek::eek::eek:


Turn :4h:

River: :4s:



UTG2 has :Tc: :Ts:



WTF! :(


What should I have done? slop play, bet less? Maybe it was a little overbet! :o



Please! I need a decent opinion...


I only lost half my stack, it is not a big problem, but it sucks.. lol

There is only one thing you can do.
Suck it up.

It REALLY REALLY sucks and I feel your pain. You played it perfectly, got your money while ahead and the rest is not up to you...

Do the same again. Don't let one bad beat to make you afraid to push all in with almost nuts...In a long run you will be on top with these plays

[fritzson]

Thanks LTU for your input..

It sucks, it feels... and it hurts! It is just to sand up and go to the next one...


The problem is; It is easy to be afraid of playing preflops when there is a bad beat.


Some tourneys is just not meant to be a winning tourney...
when there is a winning tourney it says cha ching! :D :crown:

You are absolutely right LTU!

[fritzson]

I thought i was the only one that **** happened to... a big online poker room conspiracy against me... LOL i feel better now because i would have played that the same way, but it seems like its always a Ace high flush stealing my chips...


Yes! it does feel better to see things like this happens to others.. :D

But it still sucks when it happens. hehe..

[KenLight]

You had bad luck for sure, but you did make a few mistakes on that hand (IMO), even though they probably would not have mattered.

1)Superstitions kill, it seems you have too many of them. Re-raise AKs pre-flop there unless you think a minimum raise from the player means AA or KK, then you might even fold. But this is a raise or fold situation if you ask me.

2)The way you played it, it sounds like you had QK, AQ, JQ, or TJ. Maybe QT but that would be a terrible hand to call a mini-raise from UTG2 w/ pre-flop. If he read you as a player less willing to re-raise pre-flop, maybe even KK. Anyway, the shove that's a huge overbet, especially on the flop, looks more scared than strong.

I think against a really strong player, a re-raise pre-flop plus a smaller raise on the flop and a lead out on the turn might've looked like AK (or even set over set, remember he was bottom set!), and if you laid him bad odds with that turn bet, you might've gotten a laydown. That may not have been this opponent, but it could be the next one.