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lsp123
12-26-2008, 06:08 PM
3757

Don't think this need a comment. I just tagged the player and left game.

BenediktXVI
12-26-2008, 06:37 PM
Limping with the rockets can either pay you a lot or screw you - always dangerous to slowplay it :)
I think your opponent didn't had you on a strong hand (myabe AT or something like that) therefor you got sucked out - unlucky , but maybe with a more aggressive play preflop you would have won the pot :confused:

DADuhWEEwah
12-26-2008, 06:52 PM
why is this thread titled a monster good read?

FivePlusTax
12-26-2008, 06:56 PM
why is this thread titled a monster good read?

There are monsters reading this board.

lsp123
12-29-2008, 08:22 PM
3757

Don't think this need a comment. I just tagged the player and left game.

Im not sure what happen in that history, but here is the right history hand as it was played.

3759

bluelips
12-29-2008, 08:30 PM
put you on AK

lsp123
12-30-2008, 08:38 AM
why is this thread titled a monster good read?

Because with the right history hand, it might made more sence.

fritzson
12-30-2008, 09:20 AM
Personally, I think this thread smells...

The cards are exactly the same in both history's and the time and date...
and of course the numbers of the hand history.


I think one of the pictures is fake! :rolleyes:



I have attached two pictures which I have taken screen shot of from one
and same tourney. I have change the size just to be able to upload it here, I
have used the smudge tool do hide my bankroll and the name of the merge
skin since I am not allowed to upload the picture if I have the name on the
pictures.

As you can see in my pictures, the number of the hand is different and also the time but not the date.



Good luck at the tables. :wave:

carz990
12-30-2008, 10:21 AM
yes defo a counterfeit hand there ;)

DADuhWEEwah
12-30-2008, 02:29 PM
i fail to see the monster good read still

Dori113
12-30-2008, 02:58 PM
I don't see the monster read or the farce :beaten:

Help Me Please :beaten:

FivePlusTax
12-30-2008, 06:26 PM
Personally, I think this thread smells...

The cards are exactly the same in both history's and the time and date...
and of course the numbers of the hand history.


I think one of the pictures is fake! :rolleyes:



I have attached two pictures which I have taken screen shot of from one
and same tourney. I have change the size just to be able to upload it here, I
have used the smudge tool do hide my bankroll and the name of the merge
skin since I am not allowed to upload the picture if I have the name on the
pictures.

As you can see in my pictures, the number of the hand is different and also the time but not the date.



Good luck at the tables. :wave:

I don’t know if the hand is fake or not, but why would the op post an mtt hand with phony stats…doesn’t make sense. Most likely, as pdc has done in the past, the site software screwed up the original hand history and then later corrected it. I have seen this happen more often than I would care to mention. As far as the monster read is concerned, I would venture to say the player believed (after the flop) that the eventual winner was sitting on a pair, and that assumption would have been right. In the “corrected” hand, he slow played his rockets on his initial play by calling the bb, but then raising the 7’s after he had been raised. After the flop, he figured he was odds on to win the hand and pushed all in. The player with 7’s just got extremely lucky with the dbl runner. Whether or not you want to call it a “monster read”, is certainly debatable.

fritzson
12-30-2008, 06:40 PM
I don’t know if the hand is fake or not, but why would the op post an mtt hand with phony stats…doesn’t make sense. Most likely, as pdc has done in the past, the site software screwed up the original hand history and then later corrected it. I have seen this happen more often than I would care to mention. As far as the monster read is concerned, I would venture to say the player believed (after the flop) that the eventual winner was sitting on a pair, and that assumption would have been right. In the “corrected” hand, he slow played his rockets on his initial play by calling the bb, but then raising the 7’s after he had been raised. After the flop, he figured he was odds on to win the hand and pushed all in. The player with 7’s just got extremely lucky with the dbl runner. Whether or not you want to call it a “monster read”, is certainly debatable.




Probably it is just me then.. but I have never seen any problems in my history, either on PDC or carbon or any other merge sites. I check it everyday, because I use to analyse my hands when I have lost against someone... and I am curious what he/she was playing. Or I turned my head to something else but the table and I want to see what just happened.

So far everything has seemed to be correct. Should I say pepper pepper? ;)



Well, it was nothing personal, but I just thought the pictures was looking weird.. all from bankroll to the hand history.... it is my opinion. Not a big deal! If I read AX I call with 77 too.. and I can even re-raise with that. But Hey! I am a fish... and proud of it. :D

Thaxiss
12-30-2008, 07:44 PM
I thot it was sarcasm, saying something to indicate the opposite. You know, like "Wow, that was some good play" or, "Damn, Russ, you're hot!!"

And I am.

I mean, i'm dead sexy.

Is this spam?

Ok, NOW it's spam, yes?

One more time!!!

Note from moderator: Post have been merged. Please don't post multiple times, in the same thread, at the same time. It is spamming!

DADuhWEEwah
12-30-2008, 08:58 PM
bump

Survivor777
12-30-2008, 08:58 PM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/Survivor777_photo/SPAMSIGNFUNNYsign0073.gif

MASKOAA
01-03-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm confused about 1 thing. It never says he calls the 300 chip raise (STEP 11) it just skips to Step 13...

carpenter4
01-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Im not sure what happen in that history, but here is the right history hand as it was played.

3759

i say if your %100 player has mid pp and will pay off any bet. like a good donk...good read and play

but if you can put him on any other holding ..AT-AK..sooted con...paint cards... big pp,,,im tryin to get all money in middle and all in dont get enough
times ..imo

i think i lead flop $800..hopeing for a raise...push any turn card
not worried about giving odds to flush draw or floped flush as any bet comitts
me to pot anyway..maybe this line looks like i have AA,,KK,,QQ ..but long term
77-TT ,Ah x ....folds to all in ..but floats the $800,espicaly if he has a bigger stack than me

gl...e1

lsp123
01-03-2009, 06:37 PM
Personally, I think this thread smells...

The cards are exactly the same in both history's and the time and date...
and of course the numbers of the hand history.


I think one of the pictures is fake! :rolleyes:



I have attached two pictures which I have taken screen shot of from one
and same tourney. I have change the size just to be able to upload it here, I
have used the smudge tool do hide my bankroll and the name of the merge
skin since I am not allowed to upload the picture if I have the name on the
pictures.




As you can see in my pictures, the number of the hand is different and also the time but not the date.



Good luck at the tables. :wave:



And I think you are blond Girl. Let me try to enlightn u, if u check the number of days between the posts, that might indicate why there is a diff. in the bankroll. rest of the game and history and time and table is the same.

And why should I fake the history on this ridiculous site, just for a post in this forum, cmon, give me a little more credit.

lsp123
01-03-2009, 06:42 PM
I'm confused about 1 thing. It never says he calls the 300 chip raise (STEP 11) it just skips to Step 13...

Another guy after me raised to 300 but u can't see it in the "big history" and I think the small was to small to see anything on.

lsp123
01-03-2009, 06:49 PM
I'm impressed that only 1 player could see it was sarcastic ment. but bravo Thaxiss.

And I see now that I played the hand totally wrong, after he re-raised to 450$ and me have done a check-raise on him preflop, of course he was sure he had best hand, prolly put me on 23 off or 47h or even jono hand off ofcourse. that must be the most logical conclusion to my raise, I see that now.

fritzson
01-03-2009, 06:59 PM
And I think you are blond Girl. Let me try to enlightn u, if u check the number of days between the posts, that might indicate why there is a diff. in the bankroll. rest of the game and history and time and table is the same.

And why should I fake the history on this ridiculous site, just for a post in this forum, cmon, give me a little more credit.


Let's have a closer look then.. I am blond? This is your pictures...
look at the date, time and handhistory number and the cards..
(I forgot... the players too!)
call me blond later pumkin.



Picture nr1 posted 1 week ago!
http://forum.pdcpoker.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3757&d=1230332853


Picture nr2 posted 4 days ago!
http://forum.pdcpoker.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3759



These pictures goes directly to your account.... I have not done anything
more than linking them to my post here.

I am probably blond and stupid too! That's ok... Thanks for clearing that out!


If you have done a mistake when you have uploading the pictures.
Well, we all do mistakes.

Thaxiss
01-03-2009, 07:35 PM
ya'll need to stop talking about blondes like they have a monopoly on stupid. Perhaps they're a tad over represented, but I manage quite a bit of stupidity w/o the yellow hair.

fritzson
01-03-2009, 07:54 PM
ya'll need to stop talking about blondes like they have a monopoly on stupid. Perhaps they're a tad over represented, but I manage quite a bit of stupidity w/o the yellow hair.

I agree... sorry for that blond thing!..
I change that thing, I am brunette and blue eyed....
That doesn't make me better for sure.

:cool:


Please Thaxiss, don't tell me I am wrong on that one too, because that is what
I see in the mirror every day.

:rolleyes:



Mirror fake... :eek:

tba123
01-03-2009, 08:10 PM
Let's have a closer look then.. I am blond? This is your pictures...
look at the date, time and handhistory number and the cards..
(I forgot... the players too!)
call me blond later pumkin.



Picture nr1 posted 1 week ago!
http://forum.pdcpoker.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3757&d=1230332853


Picture nr2 posted 4 days ago!
http://forum.pdcpoker.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3759



These pictures goes directly to your account.... I have not done anything
more than linking them to my post here.

I am probably blond and stupid too! That's ok... Thanks for clearing that out!


If you have done a mistake when you have uploading the pictures.
Well, we all do mistakes.


I don't do mistakes with my computer other than play poker, but after done support for over 50 ppl here and removed well over 500 viruses and trojans from other peoples machines, and sent well over 2500 screendumps around the world, I think for sure i'm perfict capable of make an ok upload, and as I state'd the history looked as shown in both pic at the time I did the screenshots. 1 thing is sure, there is NO fake in the pictures, so plz. show me excatly where the diff. in these 2 pic is besides the BR. ???? I will still say blond!!!!. I know that this is posted in another account, I was just checking if PDC had closed it as requested 4 month ago, but I guess not.

fritzson
01-03-2009, 08:26 PM
I don't do mistakes with my computer other than play poker, but after done support for over 50 ppl here and removed well over 500 viruses and trojans from other peoples machines, and sent well over 2500 screendumps around the world, I think for sure i'm perfict capable of make an ok upload, and as I state'd the history looked as shown in both pic at the time I did the screenshots. 1 thing is sure, there is NO fake in the pictures, so plz. show me excatly where the diff. in these 2 pic is besides the BR. ???? I will still say blond!!!!. I know that this is posted in another account, I was just checking if PDC had closed it as requested 4 month ago, but I guess not.


The thing is, you don't get the same hand history number twice, not at the same date or time... and not same cards ... which is obviously "played" in a different ways... but same lost and same players. What are the odds of that... you don't need to respond on that.

Of course tba123 ... Your reply was expected!


End of discussion!

I guess... (sorry Thaxiss)... I am blond! :D

MASKOAA
01-03-2009, 08:32 PM
step 11 and 12 is missing from the one pic.....why is that.

fritzson
01-03-2009, 08:37 PM
step 11 and 12 is missing from the one pic.....why is that.

Schh.. your blond too.. :cool:

fritzson
01-03-2009, 08:54 PM
Ok, One more thing, before I put this aside...

How the heck is some of the info missed in picture 1?

Well,, I will try something, and that is to play a hand to the show down and
try to see I can get info missed... after that I might call me self... not saying it, but B***D...

;)


EDIT: LMAO.. I posted this... didn't know..


I am still curious how the first picture was missing some info.. because I have trying to have a history missing info. It was not working.


Sorry Isp123... You have to admit the pictures looks a bit weird.
I can say I was wrong... it is only fair enough. :o



For the playing.... Well, I guess the guy had your stack covered and
called because of that. I would probably have done it too.. Sorry for your lost!

Survivor777
01-03-2009, 09:12 PM
[quote=fritzson;347953]Of course tba123 ... Your reply was expected!

Sorry but he does deserve more respect than you give him. He is a PC guru and has helped many of us time and time again. :wave:

fritzson
01-03-2009, 09:21 PM
[quote=fritzson;347953]Of course tba123 ... Your reply was expected!

Sorry but he does deserve more respect than you give him. He is a PC guru and has helped many of us time and time again. :wave:


Sorry for having my eyes to close to the pictures....



This sentence below has nothing to do with involved people. It is just a statement:

Even gurus can do mistakes.... even Superman has his Krypto to watch out for.

tba123
01-04-2009, 07:28 AM
Ok, One more thing, before I put this aside...

How the heck is some of the info missed in picture 1?

Well,, I will try something, and that is to play a hand to the show down and
try to see I can get info missed... after that I might call me self... not saying it, but B***D...

;)


EDIT: LMAO.. I posted this... didn't know..


I am still curious how the first picture was missing some info.. because I have trying to have a history missing info. It was not working.


Sorry Isp123... You have to admit the pictures looks a bit weird.
I can say I was wrong... it is only fair enough. :o



For the playing.... Well, I guess the guy had your stack covered and
called because of that. I would probably have done it too.. Sorry for your lost!

I admit that 1st pic look's wierd, and it was first after DAD's comment, I did a closer look at it and discovered, that preflop raise wasn't in there, that's why I went back to history and made another screenshot and on 2nd it was, This I can't explain, just say that we have had problems with history before, ex. not long ago, you couldn't see your hand history for 50k freeroll and other freerolls, that look's to be ok for now,

The reason for step 11 and 12 not being in pic. is easy to explain, just go to your own history and display a hand, u will see if there is 10 players on table, you can't see all only 8˝ player on my screen, unless u make it a small text read, which I didn't. the player u can't see is the player that made the 1st re-raise to I think it was 300$.

But because I didn't change history settings on GF account, history is now deleted, so I can't go back and get a small text read screendump instead.
I might ask support if they can provide me full hand history I have the hand number.

MASKOAA
01-04-2009, 09:37 AM
I admit that 1st pic look's wierd, and it was first after DAD's comment, I did a closer look at it and discovered, that preflop raise wasn't in there, that's why I went back to history and made another screenshot and on 2nd it was, This I can't explain, just say that we have had problems with history before, ex. not long ago, you couldn't see your hand history for 50k freeroll and other freerolls, that look's to be ok for now,

The reason for step 11 and 12 not being in pic. is easy to explain, just go to your own history and display a hand, u will see if there is 10 players on table, you can't see all only 8˝ player on my screen, unless u make it a small text read, which I didn't. the player u can't see is the player that made the 1st re-raise to I think it was 300$.

But because I didn't change history settings on GF account, history is now deleted, so I can't go back and get a small text read screendump instead.
I might ask support if they can provide me full hand history I have the hand number.

Even if other players were cut off it would still show AA calling the reraise it never shows that step.

Fireman2x
01-04-2009, 10:05 AM
whats the point??

fritzson
01-04-2009, 10:52 AM
I admit that 1st pic look's wierd, and it was first after DAD's comment, I did a closer look at it and discovered, that preflop raise wasn't in there, that's why I went back to history and made another screenshot and on 2nd it was, This I can't explain, just say that we have had problems with history before, ex. not long ago, you couldn't see your hand history for 50k freeroll and other freerolls, that look's to be ok for now,



Well, then.. peace from my side.. *waving the white flag"

For the future, if any one notice same problem, there is a way to delete
pictures with errors..

User CP > attached files > delete wished file.

With that no one can double check that much. :o

:wave: