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jumboshreddies
02-11-2009, 12:18 AM
Hey, first time I've done this, this play is just annoying me to think about.
It was in the deepstack tourney, I was chipleader. Please give me some feedback, comments, etc.
The only thing I will say is I didnt reraise preflop because I was 90% sure he would fold.
(I had to cut and paste myself higher which is why it looks semi photoshopped, I was UTG.

seakcsn
02-11-2009, 03:47 AM
if his reraise is bigger i would definitely want to get it in preflop...

i guess it depends a lot on the player, he must know you have a big hand raising under the gun unless you've been raising every other hand. i think a standard 3bet range would JJ+, AKs against an utg raise. he pops it up such a small amount i dont know what i would think.

either way when he flatted my flop bet, especially on a board that dry i think alarm bells have to sound. i dont think he is flatting with top pair because if you had AK or AQ he wouldnt want to give you a chance to get there. and if he had KK or QQ wouldnt you expect him to want to get it all in pre?

i would have a really hard time getting away from it but playing arm chair quarter back i think you could check call a small bet on the turn, check fold to a shove on the river. i think a set of J's makes sense for the way the hand played out.

if you put him all in before the flop at least it would be going in when you knew you were ahead.

carpenter4
02-11-2009, 07:42 PM
as played,,plenty of hands in villians range your gettin value from ,after your flat call pre flop hes got good odds to call your flop bet real wide

turn ck/R is fine its a brick and so u can expect plenty of simi bluff bets here , or he might think hes value bettin AJ

his turn bet is just so sick...very nice thin value bet


and i belive ur right pre flop hes foldin to 4bet with this hand
but with him having position, range is wide enough ,,and with KK,AK hes shovin most times

being OOP post flop i think $3500-$4000 4bet is best option

bluelips
02-11-2009, 08:34 PM
pre is fine i think, he's not deep enough to call a 4bet

i'd probably just c/r flop instead of donkbetting

seakcsn
02-11-2009, 08:56 PM
being OOP post flop i think $3500-$4000 4bet is best option

i agree. against a good player it will be hard to get any extra chips out of him with worse hand postfop.

bluelips
02-12-2009, 03:42 PM
i noticed you're a bit deeper than i initially thought, so maybe flatting isn't the best option.

I'm kinda torn between overshoving arrrin pre to rep AK or something, or a small 4bet like ~t2500 that prices villain in without having proper setmining odds

LilSheDevil
02-14-2009, 07:23 AM
Sorry,but AA GOES ALLIN EVERY TIME in my book.At least you know your ahead before flop!!:wave:

ropndonkies
02-14-2009, 07:46 AM
just another setup.com hand!!only way you win is get him to fold preflop but he will never fold p 9's preflop so just unlucky!

LTUFlawless
02-14-2009, 12:15 PM
I enjoy reading this.

Slayerrookie
02-14-2009, 02:16 PM
I personally would very likely re-raise with the aces preflop, since he's got quite a large stack. Giving him bad odds to see the flop is the way here or he may hit the flop hard enough to beat you, which is what happened here. If he was a smaller stack (say, up to around 5500 in chips) and it would go to heads up, flat calling his re-raise is fine. In that case you could get a bit greedy and take a small risk, although this all still depends on your style and table image of that night.

lucks00
02-14-2009, 03:32 PM
Your the chip leader, and he's got a pretty good size stack. I would re-raise and maybe get a fold or all in from him. If he's got a smaller stack, calling is a good option. But with 9k against ur 15k---u dont want him to catch up and hit.

Thaxiss
02-14-2009, 06:08 PM
it's a beat, bro. let it go. Maybe you could have gotten away from it, (tuff to do, tho) but I don't see anyone doing anything else wrong here. He's supposed to call such a smalll raise with 99 and if you want him in the hand, then you don't wanna over raise it...

My play woulda been all in, but I've 1) played at .con long enuff to know you don't want action here, and 2) played against LTU and know he's good.

Lacking that knowledge, you did fine, you just got hosed.

Hunter8281
02-15-2009, 04:49 PM
just want to say i think aces suck. i was busted 3 times between yesterday and today with low pocket pairs. They raise. i reraise they push in... i call...bam set of 3s 6s and 8s all seperate occasions.

LTUFlawless
02-20-2009, 02:00 AM
I guess, I have to say something here, since I was the one who won ;)

Yeah, you got me where you wanted me. Didn't actucally put you on aces and if flop would of came up lower big possibility that you would get all my chips. you took a risk with aces. And like you said before, yes, I was folding to all in preflop. You wanted a little bit more than we had in the pot and got your fingers burned.

You didn't play it wrong. You took a risk and it didnt simply work out. That does hurt. I got REALLLY lucky. However, it wasn't a bad beat. We didn't go all in preflop and then I caught my miracle card. When we went all in, you had only 2 outs yourself...

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Good luck in your tourneys ;)

hdfree
02-20-2009, 06:29 AM
Nothing personal to anyone !! :wave:

EVERYONE has a bunch of beats along the way. Yep, many times
it puts us on TILT ~ Yep, sometimes we fall into cycles where it
seems like it happens ALL the time. It's a game of CHANCE and
we choose to play. IF dealt hands were guaranteed to win, there
would be NO point in PLAYING. I am no different than anyone
else ....... I vent when I get beat ....... "AFTER the fact" is filled
with woulda ~ coulda ~ shouldas !!!!!!! :beaten: 20/20 hindsight.

I was going to start a thread titled:
I didn't have much, but took a CHANCE and freaking WON !
But it would OVERLOAD the server !!!! :eek:

Wow, what a blow hard post ! LOL No harm / no foul.
Ante up ~ take a chance and GOOD LUCK ! :)

jumboshreddies
02-22-2009, 01:08 PM
Don't hate the player, hate the game.


I dont hate you at all, you played it well, no bad calls/play, I respect your play which is why I didnt reraise to your probable fold.
I just want to know how many people would reraise PF to get your 1000 odd chips, and how many would call like I did.

angryhamster
02-25-2009, 01:56 AM
aces get cracked and life goes on :)

DADuhWEEwah
02-25-2009, 02:29 AM
pre is fine i think, he's not deep enough to call a 4bet

i'd probably just c/r flop instead of donkbetting

I call it bluelips betting

CASHINAFLASH
03-01-2009, 03:52 PM
I enjoy reading this.

thats hillarious=my advice is to run away if Flawless is betting:beaten:

LTUFlawless
03-01-2009, 04:59 PM
EEK

doorgod2
03-01-2009, 06:23 PM
watch that guy hes a shark

pokergramma
03-27-2009, 12:32 PM
I go allin everytime I have AA and pray no callers...lol

pokerfiend101
03-30-2009, 03:36 AM
i noticed you're a bit deeper than i initially thought, so maybe flatting isn't the best option.

I'm kinda torn between overshoving arrrin pre to rep AK or something, or a small 4bet like ~t2500 that prices villain in without having proper setmining odds

I like the flat and c/r PF line better. :)

cobbie1966
04-16-2009, 08:02 PM
i dont no,but id say that the odds were with you at that point,but it depends on how you were betting thru the game,i dont no this,but ive had my aces cracked to many times,so i like to slow walkem,with that hand i probably would have done the same,but when some raises like that preflop it should tell ya that they have a pair or high cards,but aces are hard to fold,i say he just got lucky an i think you played like youve had ur aces cracked before...lol...cobbie