4.5 SOFTWARE & VIP PROGRAM

[Jason]

Want to buy an Ipod with your VIP points? Enter almost every tournament for free? Go on a holiday with your VIP points? Well pay attention cause it is all laid out below. On the 1st of April, the highly anticipated VIP program will roll out and there are a hand full of changes you should be aware of.

The VIP program has been created as a better alternative and to replace the existing comp point system, which while good in its day, has had its time. The new system rewards you where it really counts; in your player wallet. We listened to player requests and have delivered. You are now able to buy into tournaments with points, exchange them for cash, purchase almost anything in the VIP store and loads more.

The program will employ a multi tiered approach and will allow for many more uses of your VIP points. The VIP system and its rewards are briefly explained below.

How the VIP program works

A five tiered approach, players are assigned a level depending on how many points they earn.
Each level has different rewards and benefits. The higher levels naturally have better rewards.
Points are earned at the rate of 10 VIP points per $1 of rake.
Rewards

A new store where players can purchase merchandise, books, dvds, electronics, xboxes, Ipods, holidays ect.
Use VIP points for tournament entry
Exchance VIP points for Cash.
Free & discount withdrawal fees
Freeroll and Guaranteed tournaments

Now youve read my breif promotional spiel on 4.5 and VIP, check the links below for FULL details.

http://www.carbonpoker.com/features/whatsnew.html

and also please check

http://www.carbonpoker.com/vip/

if you have any questions after reading through everything! feel free to post below and perhaps other forumers can help explain or myself or Liam will check this thread periodically over the next few days trying to answer any unanswered questions. Your feedback also helps us update information that we may have missed. :) Enjoy the new changes, they really are going to make your poker experience at Carbon far more rewarding

[Marjan77]

Thank You Jason:wave:

Looking forward to new changes:o

[forzan]

Hi Jason,

What will happen to the old comp points? (I'm playing at Carbon Poker)

[fritzson]

Hi Jason,

What will happen to the old comp points? (I'm playing at Carbon Poker)


They will most likely be converted somehow to VIP points. :wave:

[Miklosik]

They will most likely be converted somehow to VIP points. :wave:

doubt it. They've been warning us for weeks to spend them.

[Nukem78]

Forgive me If I simply just didn't read things correctly on the VIP pages, but I have been wondering this for some time now and since the page finally has more content about the new VIP levels and my question is still not answered (lest I missed it somewhere) let me ask it now since i'm bored waiting for the client to go live.

Each VIP level has a certain number of VIP points needed to qualify, but I've not seen a distinct time frame needed to make this level. Is it monthly as I assume?

[ropndonkies]

SO I SEE THE OPTION TO GO HEADSUP AFTER THE TOURNY IS OVER.DOES THAT MEAN YOU WOULD BE PLAYING FOR 1ST PLACE PRIZE?OR JUST PLAYING TO PLAY?

[fritzson]

doubt it. They've been warning us for weeks to spend them.

I didn't know that... :(

[fritzson]

At least we could have got a info mail about it.... if my points is not converted or I can't use them I am going to be very disappointed. :mad:

[TheRealBBE1]

Fritz i used half my points 2 buy stuff and saved the other half just incase we can use them to purchase in future or too enter tournys with, lets start a mini wave for clever old me:wave:

[Miklosik]

At least we could have got a info mail about it.... if my points is not converted or I can't use them I am going to be very disappointed. :mad:

http://forum.pdcpoker.com/showthread.php?t=19151&page=4

[fritzson]

:wave::wave::wave: for TheRealBB1! .. lol

Smart a.ss.... LMAO... :win:

[fritzson]

http://forum.pdcpoker.com/showthread.php?t=19151&page=4


I am not allowed to log in on PDC forum... I am a carbon reader. :(

[Miklosik]

I am not allowed to log in on PDC forum... I am a carbon reader. :(

This is what Jason said, and I quote:

My suggestions: spend your Comp points - in the comp point store or this month there will most likely be tournaments where you can spend the comp points for entry. More in this soon.

unquote.

[fritzson]

Sad, everyone doesn't read in the forum...

It would have been better to have the info in Player admin... :mad:


Well, not much to do about that in that case... just a lots of points blown
away. I was saving for a hoodie... Had a couple of thousends points left for
that. I could have bought a couple of t-shirts instead, if I knew. grr...


Now it feels like they owe me a hoodie. :D

[ropndonkies]

i believe we will have 30 days to use them still fritts i hope so i have 400k+

[HOTPANTS5572]

didnt they say you 60 days to use them after the vip starts??

[cazwil]

didnt they say you 60 days to use them after the vip starts??

I believe your right:wave:

[ropndonkies]

yes might have been 60 now that yous say that!

[fritzson]

Pray pray..... :D

No hoodie for fritz.. but a very big big t-shirt or two.... I can use as beach dress to the summer. :D


On the male T-shirt, does it say "Men" on the emblem? I know there were "women" t-short where is was saying ladies poker...

I want a neutral t-short in that case. :)

[Survivor777]

Sad, everyone doesn't read in the forum...

It would have been better to have the info in Player admin... :mad:


Well, not much to do about that in that case... just a lots of points blown
away. I was saving for a hoodie... Had a couple of thousends points left for
that. I could have bought a couple of t-shirts instead, if I knew. grr...


Now it feels like they owe me a hoodie. :D

Fritzson, you post in the forum a lot so you probably missed it by accident. However, aren't you jumping to conclusions regarding the points :confused: The client is not up yet so I don't understand your comment about lots of points blown away. Geez, everyone needs to calm down and relax. Consider how much money the site is losing every minute; we are not :wave:

[Miklosik]

I think we have lost track of the original question, or assumption. That the current cp's will be converted to VIP's. You will still have time to spend your current cps fritz, just don't count on a conversion of the old into the new.

[fritzson]

Fritzson, you post in the forum a lot so you probably missed it by accident. However, aren't you jumping to conclusions regarding the points :confused: The client is not up yet so I don't understand your comment about lots of points blown away. Geez, everyone needs to calm down and relax. Consider how much money the site is losing every minute; we are not :wave:


I said in that case.... as respons on Miks post... Yes, I saw my points flying away.

Later some one else said there would be an overlapping for the points...


It is a lack of info...


Please, have some understanding if I was a bit worried.

[cazwil]

Got to go and take son to football, DON'T start anything until I get back:P:wave:

[fritzson]

It looks like a space ship! :D

[deek1972]

im all for all the little glitches and problems getting fixed so ill be patient, but my little concern is, ive just logged in to pdc and my comp points balance is 0.. ive read all the statements saying points can be used for coupons etc etc and remaing points can be converted into vip points, is that correct? sorry if ive just repeated what sum 1 else maybe have asked... its just that ive now maybe lost 500k points.. ive looked everywhere to find my original points but there gone.. cant find them.. hope ive not been bumped... help :beaten::wave:

[scotlady]

im all for all the little glitches and problems getting fixed so ill be patient, but my little concern is, ive just logged in to pdc and my comp points balance is 0.. ive read all the statements saying points can be used for coupons etc etc and remaing points can be converted into vip points, is that correct? sorry if ive just repeated what sum 1 else maybe have asked... its just that ive now maybe lost 500k points.. ive looked everywhere to find my original points but there gone.. cant find them.. hope ive not been bumped... help :beaten::wave:

Jared posted -

Just so you know, you still have the points, they just aren't displayed in the software. In the coming days there will be a link in your player admin and you will be able to use them to purchase tournament entry coupons.:)

[HOTPANTS5572]

they will showup in couple of days

[cazwil]

Deek, Jared has posted that in the next couple of days yopu will be able to access your points through player admin.


Caz

[scotlady]

Deek, Jared has posted that in the next couple of days yopu will be able to access your points through player admin.


Caz

haha beat you too:P

[ropndonkies]

suppose to be a link in the next day or to in player addmin for our comp points

[cazwil]

:P:wave:haha beat you too:P

[fritzson]

I would like to remove that Black Jack funktion on the table...
I think it would be great to have an option... not a permanent function.

[deek1972]

thanks ladies... im obv too slow at typing... lol.. what would us men do without yous huh.. :P:wave:

[fritzson]

thanks ladies... im obv too slow at typing... lol.. what would us men do without yous huh.. :P:wave:

Stop playing with the mouse and type instead.. :beaten: :o :D :wave:

[fritzson]

Whats up with the thumbs up smiley.. LMAO

[Survivor777]

I would like to remove that Black Jack funktion on the table...
I think it would be great to have an option... not a permanent function.

Yep, I agree

[scotlady]

Whats up with the thumbs up smiley.. LMAO

:eek:Detachable arm lol

[fritzson]

:eek:Detachable arm lol

Ahh.. that is when you want to poke a bad player in the eye.. LMAO :D

[Nexrum]

i had 38k in carbon points it took me forever to get. according to new update im at zero. i dont remember being informed i would lose these...so whats up??

[scotlady]

i had 38k in carbon points it took me forever to get. according to new update im at zero. i dont remember being informed i would lose these...so whats up??

Jared posted -

Just so you know, you still have the points, they just aren't displayed in the software. In the coming days there will be a link in your player admin and you will be able to use them to purchase tournament entry coupons.

[SmileyLeonidas]

Hi
I just started to look at new software - I like auto rebuy on cash tables.
How can I switch off BlackJack button on cash tables?
Prefered seating is ok but why I still have to choose it every time I join new table - why I can't save my prefered seat? It specially painfull in turnaments when you jump to new table
Have a nice day
Slawek

[lucks00]

Where is the customizing the table option I read somewhere?? Like changing table color, floor, etc.

[fromafar]

Where is the customizing the table option I read somewhere?? Like changing table color, floor, etc.

Upper right, under button for Mini/Full mode, click on Custom colors... Some tables, ie Bad Beat are already custom so you don't have that option...

[lucks00]

Oops!!! Didnt see the custom colors...just looked over that. Thanks for the help!!:wave:

[lucks00]

So they what are the colors for the final table???

I guess ill just try to make it and find out!

[rubnik]

At least we could have got a info mail about it.... if my points is not converted or I can't use them I am going to be very disappointed. :mad:

me too

[fritzson]

At least we could have got a info mail about it.... if my points is not converted or I can't use them I am going to be very disappointed. :mad:

me too



Did you really read the whole thread before you wrote this??? ;)

[rubnik]

no way to edit the post,now i know points can be used for tourney entries,
but will they count towards my future vip status?
Can I also buy items from the shop?
And for pending bonuses: what is the exchange rate?

As i tested in a short poker session, it seems to be much harder to earn the equivalent to former points now.

[rubnik]

Did you really read the whole thread before you wrote this??? ;)

no, didnt realize the thread has more than one page.

[Jason]

Ok people, please listen as the same question has been asked and answered half a dozen times already.

You comp Points - You cant see them displayed in the client anymore, however in the next day or so they will be shown in your player admin. They will not be converted to VIP points or help your VIP status in any way. You WILL be able to enter into a lot of different tournaments over the next month.

and for those naysayers, we did inform everyone to spend their points. I sent an email to all 2million odd people who are signed up on either Carbon or PDC.
(yes im that guy who fills your inbox).

New bonus requirements - 50VIP points per $1 for initial and 75VIP per reload.
used to be 250 and 300 cp respectively.

Also someone tried to hack my forum account. And I will find out who.

[DazyDuke]

Hi all..I'm having a problem with the new update. I only have half a board, can't get to admin, can't close down (the whole right side of the lobby is missing). I un-installed and re-installed 2 times. Still no change. Any suggestions.Is it just me or is everyone having a problem since the update. Please help.I'm in the 8:20 tourny.
Thanks

[rubnik]

May be my faulth, but i dont remember any email telling me to spend my comppoints. So can u tell me at what time (approximately) u have sent them?

[fritzson]

Ok people, please listen as the same question has been asked and answered half a dozen times already.

You comp Points - You cant see them displayed in the client anymore, however in the next day or so they will be shown in your player admin. They will not be converted to VIP points or help your VIP status in any way. You WILL be able to enter into a lot of different tournaments over the next month.

and for those naysayers, we did inform everyone to spend their points. I sent an email to all 2million odd people who are signed up on either Carbon or PDC.
(yes im that guy who fills your inbox).

New bonus requirements - 50VIP points per $1 for initial and 75VIP per reload.
used to be 250 and 300 cp respectively.

Also someone tried to hack my forum account. And I will find out who.




Jason.. I have got 1 montly newsletter in 1 ½ year.
I get all promo letters, letters with deposit info only... can you check my e-mail and see if you have me on your mailing list. I have been talking with support about this... without any results.

I check the junk mail everyday!


I don't know where some of the mail goes.... huh!!!


If I can only use my old points... to something I am happy with that. :wave: :)


Peace, love and understanding. :cool:

[Nexrum]

ty 4 answering me its appriciated

[rubnik]

New bonus requirements - 50VIP points per $1 for initial and 75VIP per reload.
used to be 250 and 300 cp respectively.

Also someone tried to hack my forum account. And I will find out who.

I have a pending reload bonus and will have to earn about 170 VIP per 1$. :confused:

[sickofchange]

I never got notice to spend comp points either.

And the past week I have gone to live chat every day asking what will happen to them and no one told me to spend them.

Besides Jason, what would we have spent them on? The store has been down forever.

[lucks00]

I was never complaining, but I didnt get any emails. Will it be for the coupons from before or something different. I didnt have many left, but just wondering.

[Jason]

dunno when the emails went. I just remember doing them up and typing the content. Either way it doesn't matter. You will still have the opportunity to use your Comp Points.

Rubnik - i have no idea how you get 170 VIP points for that. if you have a pending reload bonus then 75VIP per $ for reload.

[fritzson]

dunno when the emails went. I just remember doing them up and typing the content. Either way it doesn't matter. You will still have the opportunity to use your Comp Points.
.[/B]

That is good enough for me.. :)

[juliez71]

Ok so is poker the only thing we earn points on , No more points for deuces wild.or jacks or better ?

:confused:

[Pax24fr]

I like auto rebuy on cash tables.
I don't understand this option. You enter on table with 10$, set auto-rebuy to 10$ then each time you pay blind, your stack come back to 10$... Yeah so nice :rolleyes: I'd rather a auto-reload, meaning you enter with 10$ if you loose it all your stack go back to 10$ instead of having to type in and then be sitting out...

[sickofchange]

EDIT: Just found this at the bottom of one of my emails.

"March 1st will see a brand new VIP program unveiled - you will be able to use all your accumlated Comp points to buy into tournaments as well as buy items in the brand new store. There will be Ipods, Playstations, Vacations, Poker chips , books etc."

[boysmom]

How do I know what table I'm on? It used to be if I held the pointer over the tab, it would scroll to the table number...now it is frozen. also, I wish you would change back to where I could get full screen the way it used to be..now I can't see my clock on my computer...:(

[ThaSeFaw]

I LOVE MINI MODE

[icecoldkillr]

Can you explain the TIER system? Is everyone starting at Carbon? Thanks.

[WannaTalkPoker]

For what it's worth, I like what I'm seeing so far, and I know there are a few fixes pending, but well done to the development team!

I do have a question about tournaments being visible in both the PDC and Carbon client. In the past this was relatively constant. Is this affected by the 4.5 upgrade?

(I love minimode too!)

[rubnik]

I have a pending reload bonus and will have to earn about 170 VIP per 1$. :confused:

Yeah sorry i made a mistake yesterday calculating but I still think sth is wrong with my bonus.

Before the changes I had:
135$ reload, 50 cleared so 85$left, ca. 23100CP left to clear so I was close (600CP) to the next 10$

In the new system it should be:
75$ * 75VIP = 5625VIP to clear 75$ AND about 150VIP for the missing 10$ which were almost cleared.

5625VIP + 150VIP = 5775VIP to clear my bonus. My coupon tab showed me 6948VIP to clear the bonus yesterday.

That would be about 90VIP per 1$. So the difference is not that big, anyway its 20% more to earn. I wouldnt care so much, but with your changes its become much harder to earn points at all. (Yesterday i made 40 points in a short session, I used to make about 400 earlier)

[Haporuu]

i didn`t get the mail information about the comp points too. I also entered to live chat and asked one of them if i should use my comp points before 1st april..and he told me he doesn`t know much..and just wait for a e-mail :(

[ThaSeFaw]

What happened to my absolutely fave tourny :( :( :( :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

the $2.20 $500 gtd with rebuys at 19:50 hrs


:'(


1st i lost the 1k guranteed freezout for $5
NOW THIS :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[ropndonkies]

so now it is gonna cost 25$to withdraw??lol way to take care of the loyal players!!!!!!NOT!!!!!!

[lucks00]

Well it was raised prior to the 4.5 Program...Im not sure exactly how long ago tho but it was like that a couple of weeks ago. They changed minimum withdrawal to 100 and not 50, which isnt a big deal I think.

But If you make enough points and get to the Tier levels, the withdrawl fee gets cut down. So gives players incentive to play more and get to the next level to avoid fee costs. After the Hearts Tier, checks are free. And you cant go down levels unless you are inactive for 60 days.

Heres the link: http://www.pdcpoker.com/vip/VIPtiers.html

[almurray]

Yeah sorry i made a mistake yesterday calculating but I still think sth is wrong with my bonus.

Before the changes I had:
135$ reload, 50 cleared so 85$left, ca. 23100CP left to clear so I was close (600CP) to the next 10$

In the new system it should be:
75$ * 75VIP = 5625VIP to clear 75$ AND about 150VIP for the missing 10$ which were almost cleared.

5625VIP + 150VIP = 5775VIP to clear my bonus. My coupon tab showed me 6948VIP to clear the bonus yesterday.

That would be about 90VIP per 1$. So the difference is not that big, anyway its 20% more to earn. I wouldnt care so much, but with your changes its become much harder to earn points at all. (Yesterday i made 40 points in a short session, I used to make about 400 earlier)

Either way, and I am half way through a bonus, it is WAY harder to earn them....

[lucks00]

[QUOTE=ThaSeFaw;371675]What happened to my absolutely fave tourny :( :( :( :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

the $2.20 $500 gtd with rebuys at 19:50 hrs QUOTE]

Yea I want this back!!!! It had over 130 players daily....was a good game.

[fritzson]

Either way, and I am half way through a bonus, it is WAY harder to earn them....

Is it? the more money in the pot you are in, the more points you get. :wave:

If all in = much points. :)

[lucks00]

When I heard about this program at first, I thought it would suck and not be worth that much.

But its great!!! Much more fair, and I like the point system now than before. Before, I always had to play cash games to earn them and sitngos and MTT (low stakes) didnt really affect the points. But now everything is equal and fair.

[FOURDEAD36]

Is it? the more money in the pot you are in, the more points you get. :wave:

If all in = much points. :)

If all in too often = 0 BR

[fritzson]

If all in too often = 0 BR

Then you get points to refill your BR... :D

[rubnik]

Theres no doubt that carbon was the best site to earn points easily so far. All sites are different in that way. But I feel like the new system has dropped carbon down from number one to the bottom of this ranking. Getting points only for the part of rake u have payed in a specific hand is in my opinion a bit poor.
Other sites for example give each player points for the full rake that was paid.

After playing this site for a while I never had problems to qualify for the freerolls. Now its hard for me to reach even the first VIP level (earth).

And I am a bit dissapointed that the old comppoints will not count towards the april VIP level.

I only hope that I will be able to enter the shop (when its opened) to buy tournament entries unless I am a VIP. Does anybody know that?
I already asked that in another thread but didnt get answer yet. (ok, the mods surely are very busy atm)

Lets see how much the points a worth then.

[fritzson]

Rubnik, you get fair points..

If you sit tight and play and hardly play blinds, why should you be eligible for
freerolls as it use to be, while others playing their hands and pay rake for it. :beaten:

This maybe take the game to the next level. :wave:


The points are fair...


I was one of those who suggested a point system like this, even if I gave another example.


This system makes it easier for lower stakes to gain points too - even it it is more limit on lower stake, because on the low buy in.

[rubnik]

I dont complain that the system changed and that it has become harder now to earn points. As I said, before it was very easy to gain points here.
But I think its too hard now. In my eyes playing NL 25 (SH) and FL 25/50 (SH) should make it possible to reach at least the basic VIP level without multitabling several hours each day a month. Theres still a life besides poker.

[rubnik]

wtf, no edit button......

at this site, there is almost no traffic at the higher limits (especially playing usual european time), and its not very much better the other times.
I usually play 4 tables, and I dont fold any hand thats worse than AJs, I dont fold at any action of my opponents. I play normal agressive poker like it has to be at SH tables.
AND I play some more sites than carbon and compared to them I feel its too hard here.

[fromafar]

Rubnik, you get fair points..

If you sit tight and play and hardly play blinds, why should you be eligible for
freerolls as it use to be, while others playing their hands and pay rake for it. :beaten:


I think Rubnik is correct. You only get VIP points on the part of rake YOU contribute, not the entire rake amount. You no longer get any points for what others pay in rake. Prevents sitting and folding to gain points, but makes it very tough on limit tables (even $1 ones) to earn any points.

[fritzson]

I think Rubnik is correct. You only get VIP points on the part of rake YOU contribute, not the entire rake amount. You no longer get any points for what others pay in rake. Prevents sitting and folding to gain points, but makes it very tough on limit tables (even $1 ones) to earn any points.



Yes! That was what I was saying. It is fair points...


No more riding on banana skin, to get points. ;)

[fritzson]

Well, you get point depending on how big the pot is.

You get points for SB and BB... if you fold every other hand.

I was all in at the table yesterday and got 7 points for it.

[Miklosik]

so now, if I'm understanding correctly, players that are chasing points, will also be chasing any draw regardless. Then again, I suppose that's not much different than before. It will make just it than much more difficult for those players that want to play poker and could not care less about points.

[SteelmanJohn]

so now, if I'm understanding correctly, players that are chasing points, will also be chasing any draw regardless. Then again, I suppose that's not much different than before. It will make just it than much more difficult for those players that want to play poker and could not care less about points.

I think you hit it on the button.....donks and maniacks...

PS: I'm on my way I've already made 15 points lol :) guess the money is more important than points to me.....

[almurray]

I think Rubnik is correct. You only get VIP points on the part of rake YOU contribute, not the entire rake amount. You no longer get any points for what others pay in rake. Prevents sitting and folding to gain points, but makes it very tough on limit tables (even $1 ones) to earn any points.

Kind of makes reload bonuses a joke though now. $1 = 75 pts. Wow I have earnt about $1 then...lol

[almurray]

Kind of makes reload bonuses a joke though now. $1 = 75 pts. Wow I have earnt about $1 then...lol

IMO......but Fritzon I here what ya sayin.

[TheRealBBE1]

has the great (SIR) Bruce Forsyth would say, 'What do points make?, PRIZESSSSSSS':D:P:D

[Miklosik]

has the great (SIR) Bruce Forsyth would say, 'What do points make?, PRIZESSSSSSS':D:P:D

It would be a heck of a lot cheaper to go to Best Buy and purchase and ipod than to claim through points.

[cptrosco]

Well i was one of those people that were worried about the new points system and i thought it was going to be bad, however, in the last 2 days i have made nearly 2000 points, and thats me only playing for about 6 hours a day on 2 tables 50-1.
So in fact i actually welcome the new points system.

Secondmore,people are saying so much about points, i dunno about you, but im on here to make money no points (the points are just an added bonus)

[rubnik]

Well, you get point depending on how big the pot is.

You get points for SB and BB... if you fold every other hand.

I was all in at the table yesterday and got 7 points for it.

No flop - no rake - no points

[Nukem78]

Well i was one of those people that were worried about the new points system and i thought it was going to be bad, however, in the last 2 days i have made nearly 2000 points, and thats me only playing for about 6 hours a day on 2 tables 50-1.
So in fact i actually welcome the new points system.


Either this statement is not true, I'm misunderstanding something, or I'm getting hosed out of points. I may not have played 12 hours, maybe 6, but I was 3 to 4 tabling 0.5/1 and I haven't quite reached 200 pts yet.

[DazyDuke]

Why would they take off the 19:20 HO tourny?? That was a great tourny and 50-60 people played EVERYDAY. :confused: Also, they changed up all the times for my 3 fave's. Horse,50 man max and Bagugi all run within 20 minutes of each other. :( Once those tournies are done the choices are slim pickens if ya want something other than Holdem. Used to stay here all day. Now I have to leave Carbon and go to Full tilt. :mad:
Also, some Stud hilo tournines would be nice for a change. Give a little something for everyone.

Not overly impressed with the changes. If its not broke, don't fix it!!

[rubnik]

Either this statement is not true, I'm misunderstanding something, or I'm getting hosed out of points. I may not have played 12 hours, maybe 6, but I was 3 to 4 tabling 0.5/1 and I haven't quite reached 200 pts yet.

Thought the same. But i realized that the amount of points displayed in the freeroll- eligibility-window still increase like the old fashioned CPs.
I really dont believe the he produced 2000$ rake in 12 hours on 50/1.

[rubnik]

Well i was one of those people that were worried about the new points system and i thought it was going to be bad, however, in the last 2 days i have made nearly 2000 points, and thats me only playing for about 6 hours a day on 2 tables 50-1.
So in fact i actually welcome the new points system.

Secondmore,people are saying so much about points, i dunno about you, but im on here to make money no points (the points are just an added bonus)

If u made 2000 points you have paid 2000$ of rake. You played 4 tables for 6 hours each. So lets see: On fast tables u play 100 hands per hour.
Thats 100hands x 24 hours = 2400 hands. Means u pay 0.83$ rake per hand. Rake is 5% of the pot. So in average u have a 16.67$ bet per hand (which was called by at least 1 player). Hmmmm, I suppose u play NL and go allin every hand.

I look very forward to see u at the tables!

[lucks00]

Yes, its gotten harder to earn points mostly on cash tables, but before was a joke. People just sit on the tables for hours, fold almost every hand just for points. That is definetely eliminated and should be. This system is only good way to go. But if you guys say you have lives and other things to do other than why play for points? You should be playing for money and this system does that. You just cant have the easy way out everytime.

[Froliche]

10 pts per dollar of rake not 1... so 2000 pts is $200 of rake, which would still be quite a bit in that amount of time but w/e just thought i'd correct that tardedness

[JrMontana08]

I didn't read every posts ~ will we get any kind of refund for our "old comp points"?

[rubnik]

10 pts per dollar of rake not 1... so 2000 pts is $200 of rake, which would still be quite a bit in that amount of time but w/e just thought i'd correct that tardedness

yes ur right.

[MUNKEYNUTZZ]

I think it is quite obvious the opinion on the new point system is not very high. I do know that i played around 10 hours a week on .50/1.00 and 1.00/2.00 Limit tables as well as some.25/.50 tables. I usually made about 5000 points each week.Under the old system at a rate of $10 per 3000 points for a bonus playthrough that was about $1.66 per hour for playthrough. At the present rate of 90 VIP points per $1.00 for playthrough, i have played the same tables for approx. 10 hours now and have made about 150 VIP points which translates to .166 per hour of play. Approximately a rate of 1/10 of the previous point system. In addition to that there is much more raising preflop and on turns for draws so there is approximately 3.5 times the cost to play a single hand now on top of the poor rate of return. In my meager opinion it is not worth play beyond for the money if you happen to be winning. AND WHERE THE HECK ARE MY 140,OOO POINTS THAT THEY TOOK!

[macemort68]

cry I can't sit at tables and just collect points instead of playing poker cry!!!!!!! What a crock of ****

PLay poker and don't worry about the points. It is all of these people that ruin the poker cash games here and that is why it was changed. Just ridiculous people are complaining that they can't fold and still get points. They are rewarding the people who contribute the most to the site's profit - is that not the way it should be?

NO MORE RUINING THE CASH GAMES - CUDOS CARBON!!!!

If you are any kind of poker player then the people way overpaying for their draws for "Points" should net you more profit no?

[Pax24fr]

Not a question of playing or not poker.
The new system is hard, and far frm the previous. Especially for tight players, when you have someone always raising your blinds and everyone fold then you pay your seat but have no point because no flop. You can spend a lot of money before obtain any point.
In fact this system awards loose players, I'm not sure the poker will be better in quality...

[FOURDEAD36]

Not a question of playing or not poker.
The new system is hard, and far frm the previous. Especially for tight players, when you have someone always raising your blinds and everyone fold then you pay your seat but have no point because no flop. You can spend a lot of money before obtain any point.
In fact this system awards loose players, I'm not sure the poker will be better in quality...

very true!!!!

[ropndonkies]

Not a question of playing or not poker.
The new system is hard, and far frm the previous. Especially for tight players, when you have someone always raising your blinds and everyone fold then you pay your seat but have no point because no flop. You can spend a lot of money before obtain any point.
In fact this system awards loose players, I'm not sure the poker will be better in quality...

this is rewardthedonkey.com right? :rolleyes:

[SteelmanJohn]

Since the start of the new upgrade my bank roll has increase and I've already made 60 points......I don't see what the problem is :)

[fritzson]

Since the start of the new upgrade my bank roll has increase and I've already made 60 points......I don't see what the problem is :)

You mean 60 points today?

About the bankroll... woohooo!!!:win:

Mine is on plus too since wednesday....

[SteelmanJohn]

You mean 60 points today?

About the bankroll... woohooo!!!:win:

Mine is on plus too since wednesday....

lol......no.....60 points total :)

[fritzson]

lol......no.....60 points total :)

:eek: :o I got more...... :P


You play higher stakes than me... :confused:


I haven't played that much... I understand why I haven't more points.


We have a little work to do if we are going to reach first level. :D

[Hoackie3]

10 pts per dollar of rake not 1... so 2000 pts is $200 of rake, which would still be quite a bit in that amount of time but w/e just thought i'd correct that tardedness

this isnt right........if u were to pay $200 in rake, that is 2000pts of which are split up between every player that contributed to each and every pot. so not sure how close i am, but my guess would be around 1200-1400 points. any1 know the formula their using to divi up points per hand? Maybe im wrong for saying this, but only my feelings. The vip program is suposedly based on a loyalty system right? What about those of us who have proven a loyalty through last few yrs only to start over and prove loyalty again? Whats gonna happen 4 more yrs down road, start over and prove again? As far as sites go, in my opinion PDC has the best support team (above the live operators) most issues ive had were dealt with fairly timely.And the site has treated me well with promos and bonuses, but i just feel kinda robbed by the new "loyalty program"

[fritzson]

this isnt right........if u were to pay $200 in rake, that is 2000pts of which are split up between every player that contributed to each and every pot. so not sure how close i am, but my guess would be around 1200-1400 points. any1 know the formula their using to divi up points per hand? Maybe im wrong for saying this, but only my feelings. The vip program is suposedly based on a loyalty system right? What about those of us who have proven a loyalty through last few yrs only to start over and prove loyalty again? Whats gonna happen 4 more yrs down road, start over and prove again? As far as sites go, in my opinion PDC has the best support team (above the live operators) most issues ive had were dealt with fairly timely.And the site has treated me well with promos and bonuses, but i just feel kinda robbed by the new "loyalty program"


This is just me thinking loud.... as normal it doesn't mean much! :rolleyes: :D

Normally, well, in my experience, when changing system old members use to
get some benefits, that new members dosen't have.

Ok, we were supposed to be able to use or old comp points for something.
It has gone a week since we were told within a few days something was
going to be set up for those... and we should have 60 days on us to use.

I am not sure, but I haven't seen the store for old comp points yet. If the
days are counted from 1st of April, we have now 52 days on us.... the clock
is ticking.

When I realised that I had to earn 5000 points in one month to reach the
first level (talking for carbon) I was like huh... How the heck am I going to do
that. I guess these levels are calculated on peoples activity, I guess the levels
is set through that... I don't really think it is dream levels even if it feels like it....

Since old comp points wasn't going to be converted to new vip points I was
thinking if you could be able to buy vip points in the store... I mean, old
members should have some advantage in the vip ladder for "long time in duty"...


Just a thought from me... :o

[Snoggler]

This is just me thinking loud.... as normal it doesn't mean much! :rolleyes: :D

Normally, well, in my experience, when changing system old members use to
get some benefits, that new members dosen't have.

Ok, we were supposed to be able to use or old comp points for something.
It has gone a week since we were told within a few days something was
going to be set up for those... and we should have 60 days on us to use.

I am not sure, but I haven't seen the store for old comp points yet. If the
days are counted from 1st of April, we have now 52 days on us.... the clock
is ticking.

When I realised that I had to earn 5000 points in one month to reach the
first level (talking for carbon) I was like huh... How the heck am I going to do
that. I guess these levels are calculated on peoples activity, I guess the levels
is set through that... I don't really think it is dream levels even if it feels like it....

Since old comp points wasn't going to be converted to new vip points I was
thinking if you could be able to buy vip points in the store... I mean, old
members should have some advantage in the vip ladder for "long time in duty"...


Just a thought from me... :o

I like the system and as i said already. One day ill get to that first tier as i did to life time comps of 250k.. for a tourney/ low buy in player. Thats not bad in 3yrs.

Yer but I am loyal to site. They have been loyal to us. Think the system is correct with that one exception. After all this time to have to start from scratch.

I would not expect a reward as such of course. Such as start of next tier which would be a cash out of 100$ if i decided to.

Fritz i like your idea, but since no forward info was ever giving towards the upgrade, to what would happen with comp points. For older players now i dont think that would be fair to add at this point. Some of us finally spent on sat coupon's.

As a loyal player here i have been offered and did participate in the first upgrade trial period with numerous others from site and forum. Thats kewl locality stuff :D:win: Enjoyed it anyway.

I will probably be around long enough to see 1st tier. If I dont run out of cash pmsl.

But I do and think players using forum and players of long time standing, play, etc. As a loyal bunch of people. And you have access as site to know who they are. And there still alot of us around that started play $ 4+yr ago and have been spending real $ for more than 2 yr now.

Even if its.. your a joker on pdcpoker.. or what ever it is on carbon.. etc..
Over a year. Your joker accolade for level even. etc up.. Long as your A yearling.. something to this affect.

Course a PiP ** system over our avatar one pip * for each year served here :D is interesting too. IMO.

I am loyal and would like to show it! I got my original Poker.com hat on when i play. Anyway :wave:

[fritzson]

It is just Carbon VIP on carbon...

I find it very interesting to see the different between Carbon and PDC.

You need 2500 for first tier on PDC... piece of cake. ;)

You need 5000 :eek: on Carbon for first tier... that is more of hard work.


Does that mean more lose players on Carbon? :o

[richtheriver]

I like the system and as i said already. One day ill get to that first tier as i did to life time comps of 250k.. for a tourney/ low buy in player. Thats not bad in 3yrs.

Yer but I am loyal to site. They have been loyal to us. Think the system is correct with that one exception. After all this time to have to start from scratch.

I would not expect a reward as such of course. Such as start of next tier which would be a cash out of 100$ if i decided to.

Fritz i like your idea, but since no forward info was ever giving towards the upgrade, to what would happen with comp points. For older players now i dont think that would be fair to add at this point. Some of us finally spent on sat coupon's.

As a loyal player here i have been offered and did participate in the first upgrade trial period with numerous others from site and forum. Thats kewl locality stuff :D:win: Enjoyed it anyway.

I will probably be around long enough to see 1st tier. If I dont run out of cash pmsl.

But I do and think players using forum and players of long time standing, play, etc. As a loyal bunch of people. And you have access as site to know who they are. And there still alot of us around that started play $ 4+yr ago and have been spending real $ for more than 2 yr now.

Even if its.. your a joker on pdcpoker.. or what ever it is on carbon.. etc..
Over a year. Your joker accolade for level even. etc up.. Long as your A yearling.. something to this affect.

Course a PiP ** system over our avatar one pip * for each year served here :D is interesting too. IMO.

I am loyal and would like to show it! I got my original Poker.com hat on when i play. Anyway :wave:

:DNice 1 snoggler. PDC know who the loyal players are and could reward them accordingly.I am a loyal player and have had PDC tattoed on mi forhead lol.
The caps were out of stock

[lucks00]

Ooooo the store is OPEN!!! Did some1 already say this?? Cuz it didnt work for me b4.. just now!

[fritzson]

Ooooo the store is OPEN!!! Did some1 already say this?? Cuz it didnt work for me b4.. just now!

where? Carbon? PDC?

[fritzson]

That is the vip store... I want the comp points store.. or will the comp points be attached to the vip store?

[ropndonkies]

i cant get it to work?

[fromafar]

Nice store! Lots of stuff to choose from.... Just need to points first...lol

[fritzson]

I went through the points tab in the software... on carbon.

[ropndonkies]

yes thank you but only for vip points.....got excited for a second when some said cp's lol will i ever get to use my 450,000 comp points ?????

[fritzson]

Nice store! Lots of stuff to choose from.... Just need to points first...lol

Yeah! I would be happy to get a new Lap top! Mine is missing letters... LMAO
And the touch pad is not working properly and the buttons to the touch pad
aren't working at all.


Walking sticks is populare in sweden... It would be nice with a pair of those.
Well, I think it is a nice store.... huh!

[xwinmuch]

They shop is nice.
But it looks somehow familiar. I've seen something similar somewhere before.
Maybe they will merge with another Poker sites/networks soon????:eek:

[ropndonkies]

Nice store! Lots of stuff to choose from.... Just need to points first...lol

football ****s YES!!IM GONNA GET ME A FAT SEAHAWK JERSEY.....DOH DIDNT THEY MEAN SOCCER??????LMAO

[lucks00]

Well im glad they have loads of stuff and not just 20 items. Prices are high and will take some time for me to get there, but definetely a big plus! :wave:

[fritzson]

They shop is nice.
But it looks somehow familiar. I've seen something similar somewhere before.
Maybe they will merge with another Poker sites/networks soon????:eek:

I have heard rumours about that long time ago.... but I don't remember the name on the room. I can probably find it in another forum.

[FOURDEAD36]

Well im glad they have loads of stuff and not just 20 items. Prices are high and will take some time for me to get there, but definetely a big plus! :wave:

yes the new store in PDCpoker.com is awesome but........I'm like a guy who has enough for a $800 good used car and I just walked into the RollsRoyce dealership:eek:..lmao:D:wave::(

[Snoggler]

:DNice 1 snoggler. PDC know who the loyal players are and could reward them accordingly.I am a loyal player and have had PDC tattoed on mi forhead lol.
The caps were out of stock


Hey Rich glad to see you finally found your way here !!! :wave: welcome to forum :D

Der i know. I tried to get another cap before they :( went missing in action sighs. Must take care of the one i got! doh

[fritzson]

I have heard rumours about that long time ago.... but I don't remember the name on the room. I can probably find it in another forum.

Yeah!.... it was that room I have heard of... I remember it now....
BTW same loggo on the tab.

[ineedcash112]

so we cannot use old points for goods?

oh and this
"We do not ship to your country. Please try again later."

what happened to the old store? it used to ship me stuff.

[Honsey]

so we cannot use old points for goods?

oh and this
"We do not ship to your country. Please try again later."

what happened to the old store? it used to ship me stuff.No you can not use your old comp points in the new store. Below is a post I made in another thread showing what you can use them for. Unfortunately you have missed all but the last Easter Swag tournaments. To purchase the tournament coupons go to your Player Admin.

I just want to make sure everyone is clear on this: Old comp points are not being converted, they will only be able to be used to purchase coupons for tournament entry. The "exchange rate" I was referring to in my post was about how many comp points will be needed to purchase these tournament coupons. The secret is now out, this is what I found in my PDC & Carbon Player Admin:

Trade Comp Points for tournament entry coupons.



Coupon Name ...........................Description............ ............................................CP Cost
$2.20 Satellite ............................$2.20 Satellite Coupon............................................ .......15000
$11 Satellite................................$11 Satellite Coupon............................................ .........50000
$60 Satellite ...............................$60 Satellite Coupon............................................ ........150000
Deep Stack Satellite.....................$109 DeepStack Coupon............................................ ....250000
10,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........10000
25,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........25000
50,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........50000


Also, there are a number of Easter Swag tournaments where the buy in is 25000 old comp points. Here is the schedule:

Fri 10 Apr @ 14:15 (Server Time)
Sat 11 Apr @ 16:15
Sun 12 Apr @ 14:15
Mon 13 Apr @ 13:15

[juliez71]

So where do we use these ?


10,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........10000


50,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........50000

I have all of the above and found no use for them

[RobPalmer]

So where do we use these ?


10,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........10000


50,000 Comp Point Entry................Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls.........50000

I have all of the above and found no use for them

I got one of these and was wondering also

[fritzson]

I asked about those for some days ago. This is the info I got from support.

(excuse my bad english and expressions... it is getting worse than worse in some situations. LMAO )

CS : Hello! How may I assist you?

fritzson: Hi, this store for old comp points is up finally.. ) I wonder... there
where three options where it is saying Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP
Points" Freerolls.... what does that mean.. Can I use it after easter too.. or
is it only for swag?

CS : yes you can still use your remaining old comp points to upcoming tournaments

fritzson: No need to use it this weekend?

CS : it is up to you sir(? hrmph lol), if do now want to join now
CS : for the swag tournament

fritzson: Thanks.. just wondering. No further questions.. have a Happy Easter!

CS : you too
CS : Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further enquiries.
CS : Have a Nice Day!
CS : Good Bye!




... I guess, we can use them for coming vip freerolls.

[SteelmanJohn]

Just wondering what you would do?

I have 587000 comp points....

I could get 2 $109 ds coupons + or I could get 1 $109 ds and 2 $60 sat. coupons +

What do you use the $60 sat. coupons on....

I know there is better money to be made on the $109 but what would you do..

[fritzson]

Just wondering what you would do?

I have 587000 comp points....

I could get 2 $109 ds coupons + or I could get 1 $109 ds and 2 $60 sat. coupons +

What do you use the $60 sat. coupons on....

I know there is better money to be made on the $109 but what would you do..


I think I would go for 2x$109 coupons if I were you...
look at the number of players a calc your chances of winning.

[almurray]

Just wondering what you would do?

I have 587000 comp points....

I could get 2 $109 ds coupons + or I could get 1 $109 ds and 2 $60 sat. coupons +

What do you use the $60 sat. coupons on....

I know there is better money to be made on the $109 but what would you do..

John,

I took 2 or 3 $11 sats, and then rest in $2.20.

Made that up to 6 x $11 and 3 x $109 so far.

Confident in play - go low

[Jason]

Whao...big disscussion.

I feel the Honsey has mainly answered the comp point issue - basically you will have options to spend these.

If someone would like to post a definitive list of questions you all have I will answer them. :)

[Survivor777]

Jason, a recommendation ... I spent 250,000 for the deep stack coupon so I could play it the other day; however, when I went to reg it said I did not have the coupon, but I did. Upon further review I realized my coupon tab showed for SUNDAY ONLY :beaten:

Perhaps it would be better to include it is for a Sunday only deep stack as the description DOES NOT indicate that it is for a Sunday only game :cool: Would clear up some confusion; this should have been put in there IMO.

I don't know for sure now if I can play this Sunday, and if I can't am I able to use that coupon for ANY Sunday?

Thanks for your time :wave:

[Survivor777]

Sorry there is no EDIT tab to delete the first one. Perhaps a mod can do it

[ChicoM]

Did we ever find out if the tiers reset at the end of the month or year or even at all?

[fromafar]

Jason, a recommendation ... I spent 250,000 for the deep stack coupon so I could play it the other day; however, when I went to reg it said I did not have the coupon, but I did. Upon further review I realized my coupon tab showed for SUNDAY ONLY :beaten:

Perhaps it would be better to include it is for a Sunday only deep stack as the description DOES NOT indicate that it is for a Sunday only game :cool: Would clear up some confusion; this should have been put in there IMO.

I don't know for sure now if I can play this Sunday, and if I can't am I able to use that coupon for ANY Sunday?

Thanks for your time :wave:

I know I'm not Jason, but as far as the Deep Stack Coupon goes, it's description and value shows as $109. The only tournament for $109 buy-in at this time happens to be on Sunday, but if they add any others to the schedule, your coupon would be good for that also. If you check your Cashier/Coupons you will see there is no expiration date, so you can use it any time in the future... Good luck whenever you get to use it! :win:

[scotlady]

Did we ever find out if the tiers reset at the end of the month or year or even at all?

I would assume this is the same kinda thing -

From VIP Facts

Do my points decay?

1. Yes. They decay at a specific rate dependant on your Royalty Tier however, they will only decay if your inactive for 60 days and do not log any VIP points in that time. For more information please visit the VIP Tiers page.

[Survivor777]

I know I'm not Jason, but as far as the Deep Stack Coupon goes, it's description and value shows as $109. The only tournament for $109 buy-in at this time happens to be on Sunday, but if they add any others to the schedule, your coupon would be good for that also. If you check your Cashier/Coupons you will see there is no expiration date, so you can use it any time in the future... Good luck whenever you get to use it! :win:

Thanks for info; thought the deep stack tourneys are still daily ... where have I been ROFL :wave:

[lucks00]

Ok I got a question on the Tier levels....

Suppose I have 3000 pts and get to the Diamonds level (on PDC). I would need 7000 pts to get to the next tier-Spades level. But if I spend say 2000 pts on an item from the store, would I still need 7000 pts to get to the Spades level or would I need 9000 now?

So for tracking tier levels, is it from points earned or from the points you have? It would make sense if it was from points earned, but I just want to make sure.

And also if I spend pts on an item, will I go down a tier? Im pretty sure the answer is no, but you never know.. :wave:

[fritzson]

Thanks for info; thought the deep stack tourneys are still daily ... where have I been ROFL :wave:

They are daily! It is just sunday which has $109. :wave:

There is a $60 dollar deep stack at 17.00 lobby time.


You have probably been here, just missed the price. :)

[Survivor777]

They are daily! It is just sunday which has $109. :wave:

There is a $60 dollar deep stack at 17.00 lobby time.


You have probably been here, just missed the price. :)

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/Survivor777_photo/medicinerofl.jpgSee told you what the meds do to me rofl :D

[Snoggler]

Ok I got a question on the Tier levels....

Suppose I have 3000 pts and get to the Diamonds level (on PDC). I would need 7000 pts to get to the next tier-Spades level. But if I spend say 2000 pts on an item from the store, would I still need 7000 pts to get to the Spades level or would I need 9000 now?

So for tracking tier levels, is it from points earned or from the points you have? It would make sense if it was from points earned, but I just want to make sure.

And also if I spend pts on an item, will I go down a tier? Im pretty sure the answer is no, but you never know.. :wave:

Like the comp points. Your life time total keeps going. So no tears for your tier's! :win:

Even if you spend VIP points for coupons or wow enough for trip or what ever. VIP life time points i believe stay same no matter. You earned em your tier totals will always go up. More less i think you answered your own questions ;) Welcome !

[lucks00]

Ok thanks!!! I just wasn't totally sure, but its what I figured and what would make sense.

[Liam]

Store Purchases/Tourney Entries/Cash exchanges will deduct from your available balance of VIP pts, but will not reduce your life-time earnings...

This means that you will not drop Tiers or need to earn those spent points again to reach the next tier.

The only way they reduce is if you dont play for 60 days... in which case your life-time earnings of VIP points will be decayed and you could drop a VIP tier.

[fritzson]

No resets either..... to reach the next level?? :)

[Liam]

nope....

[lucks00]

No resets either..... to reach the next level?? :)

Resets as in what??? Like if you need 2500 for the first level, and then u need 10,000 for the next.....so 10,000 will be the total and ud get to the next level??

Or is it if u need 2500 for the first, then 10,000 more???

[Snoggler]

Resets as in what??? Like if you need 2500 for the first level, and then u need 10,000 for the next.....so 10,000 will be the total and ud get to the next level??

Or is it if u need 2500 for the first, then 10,000 more???

No no no .. don't worry lucks. Fritzons question was about if they should get reset/ back to 0 for anyreason. Liam answered No. Just play and build :D VIP point life time points do not go down. Just the on hand VIP points should you use any. So if you have 10k in VIP points built up. Only way they go down, is if you dont play for 60 days. And then they only go down a %.

And that is only fair to site realy, if you stop playing for a year or something like that!. Again do not worry about the reset question ;) But please ask stuff!:crown:

[fritzson]

No no no .. don't worry lucks. Fritzons question was about if they should get reset/ back to 0 for anyreason. Liam answered No. Just play and build :D VIP point life time points do not go down. Just the on hand VIP points should you use any. So if you have 10k in VIP points built up. Only way they go down, is if you dont play for 60 days. And then they only go down a %.

And that is only fair to site realy, if you stop playing for a year or something like that!. Again do not worry about the reset question ;) But please ask stuff!:crown:


What he said... I think! :D

[lucks00]

OK got it ..I think. So on PDC if you earn 10000 pts, you get to the spades level?

So you dont need 10,000 more after u have 2,500 pts? Only 10,000 total?

[Snoggler]

No going by program itself i think its diamonds, but dont quote me there. Not sure what that first tier is on pdc to be exact. But says 2500. But when going to the VIP part of program its 10k per tier :beaten: If you find anything other that what is on forum about this luck :wave: lol let me know where. That is mostly info on tier's.

[lucks00]

No going by program itself i think its diamonds, but dont quote me there. Not sure what that first tier is on pdc to be exact. But says 2500. But when going to the VIP part of program its 10k per tier :beaten: If you find anything other that what is on forum about this luck :wave: lol let me know where. That is mostly info on tier's.

10k per tier?? Kinda confused me there....:confused: But support says that the points earned is what gets you in the next tier. So once you earn 2500 u get in the diamonds level. Then when you earn 10,000 points, you get into the next tier. But im not totally sure.....:eek:

[hdfree]

http://forum.pdcpoker.com/images/vip/vip_icon_earth.jpg http://forum.pdcpoker.com/images/vip/vip_icon_wind.jpg http://forum.pdcpoker.com/images/vip/vip_icon_fire.jpg http://forum.pdcpoker.com/images/vip/vip_icon_water.jpg http://forum.pdcpoker.com/images/vip/vip_icon_crown.jpg Tier Diamonds Spades Hearts Clubs Royalty Royalty Points 2500 10,000 50,000 150,000 300,000

[hdfree]

Oooops ~ it didn't post properly.

http://www.pdcpoker.com/vip/VIPtiers.html

[fromafar]

Wow, thank you!!!! I've been looking in my Player Admin, not on the website... This answers my questions to doug as well...

[imjustval]

great idea, i too am confused...

[SteelmanJohn]

great idea, i too am confused...

welcome to the forum and don't scratch the crabs :)

[fritzson]

welcome to the forum and don't scratch the crabs :)

I have to agree, we had it once and don't need it again. LOL :win:

[fromafar]

WooHoo!!! :win: It took me almost a whole year, but I finally reached the first tier on PDC!!! :D

At this rate, I'll reach the next tier in about 3 years... :( Unless they let us earn VIP points in the casino games? Please?

[Dori113]

Wow ~ congrats ~ that tier is just a dream for me ~ think I'll forever be a joker. Best of luck in the games that it brings and also getting to the next.

[Jani22]

I'm only halfways to tier 1 as well, so big congrats:win::D

[fritzson]

WooHoo!!! :win: It took me almost a whole year, but I finally reached the first tier on PDC!!! :D

At this rate, I'll reach the next tier in about 3 years... :( Unless they let us earn VIP points in the casino games? Please?


Hmm... I wouldn't be halfway if I didn't change skin... On carbon maybe with in 10 years. PDC only a few points more to go....a couple of hundreds.

Ps. I don't like the new window system of cashier. I always do the same mistake. lol