Points Situation

[cazwil]

There seems to be a lot of posts about 'missing' points.

So to let everyone know this is what Jared posted earlier, and hopefully it will put all your minds to rest.


Jared posted -

Just so you know, you still have the points, they just aren't displayed in the software. In the coming days there will be a link in your player admin and you will be able to use them to purchase tournament entry coupons.





Caz:)


Also Jax's/Scotlady's copy and paste won't be worn out:P

[scotlady]

lol I got it written on wordpad sitting here:D:D:D

Thanks mate, never thought of posting another thread:beaten:

[ChaseMan16]

lol I got it written on wordpad sitting here:D:D:D

Thanks mate, never thought of posting another thread:beaten:

Jax looks like its been a busy day for you:confused::cool::rolleyes:

[sickofchange]

Why wouldn't they be converted to VIP points?

Pretty ****py for those of us who have been playing here for years, earning comp points, to just lose them to the new system. All we can do is use them for tourney entries? Cmon now.

[sickofchange]

EDIT: Just found this at the bottom of one of my emails.

"March 1st will see a brand new VIP program unveiled - you will be able to use all your accumlated Comp points to buy into tournaments as well as buy items in the brand new store. There will be Ipods, Playstations, Vacations, Poker chips , books etc."

[Wotan888]

I make my account at carbon about 2 weeks ago. i play NL25. i earn for 100 hands about 200 points for start to clear my first deposit bonus.

and now you start a "vip point system". this is a joke.:mad:

now i get for 100 hands about 10 points.

[scotlady]

No actually here is what you get:)

Start earning VIP Points by playing in any raked real-money hand in a ring game, real money Multi-Table Tournament or Sit & Go with a tournament fee:

•Ring Games: Earn 10 VIP points for every $1 of rake contributed to the raked pot. Fractional points are also awarded; so if a player contributed $0.75 in rake, the player would receive 7.5 points.

◦For example: There are three players in a hand (blinds $1/$2), the SB, BB and the Dealer. Dealer calls $2, SB folds, BB Checks (total pot $5). If no further bets were made, then the total rake taken would be $0.25. Both the BB and Dealer contributed $0.10 each, and would receive 1 VIP points each. Whereas, the SB contributed $0.05 to rake and would receive 0.5 VIP Points.
◦

•Tournaments: For every dollar paid in Multi-Table Tournament or Sit & Go fees, you'll receive 10 VIP Points. There is no limit to the number of points you can earn per tournament.

◦For example: if you play in a tournament with a $10 buy-in and a $1 tournament fee, you'll receive 10 VIP points; if you play in a tournament with a $420 buy-in and a $40 fee, you'll receive 400 points.

[NcCrdPlayer69]

Still seem quite a bit off from the other comp point system to unlock these bonus's I have one i'm trying to clear from a while back... and if it still takes 2500 points to unlock $10 this is going to take alot longer and think it needs a fix

[NewYorkCHICK]

ok i know this sounds like a rookie question but as long as ive been playing poker here i never payed that much attention to the comp points other than i thought you could only trade them in for stuff in the comp store that i never wanted... only when i can trade them in for freerolls like i know i can on other sites do i use them... as long as ive been playing on this site i never saw anywhere where you could trade your points in for tickets into freerolls... so basically i have untouched comp points saved up from the first day i signed up at this site years ago... but after reading some of the threads in here are you telling me that i couldve been using my comp points on some mysterious freeroll i never knew about? ...i have noticed i get "PokerNews cup freeroll" coupons and i have an "InstantCash Freeroll" from 8/2007 that all say theyre still active... so where exactly can i use these coupns... what freerolls? ive never seen a PokerNews Freeroll or Instant cash freeroll or any freeroll that was i was eligible for anyway other than the $50 ones that are open to everybody

[NewYorkCHICK]

ok i know this sounds like a rookie question but as long as ive been playing poker here i never payed that much attention to the comp points other than i thought you could only trade them in for stuff in the comp store that i never wanted... only when i can trade them in for freerolls like i know i can on other sites do i use them... as long as ive been playing on this site i never saw anywhere where you could trade your points in for tickets into freerolls... so basically i have untouched comp points saved up from the first day i signed up at this site years ago... but after reading some of the threads in here are you telling me that i couldve been using my comp points on some mysterious freeroll i never knew about? ...i have noticed i get "PokerNews cup freeroll" coupons and i have an "InstantCash Freeroll" from 8/2007 that all say theyre still active... so where exactly can i use these coupns... what freerolls? ive never seen a PokerNews Freeroll or Instant cash freeroll or any freeroll that was i was eligible for anyway other than the $50 ones that are open to everybody


ok that last sentenced sounded straight off the short bus.. hate forums with no edit buttons :beaten: meant to say

... ive never seen a PokerNews Freeroll an Instant cash freeroll or any freeroll that i was eligible for other than the $50 ones that are open to everybody

[LTUFlawless]

You were able to play in every single Freeroll ($50, $1000, $2000, $10000 and $50000) with accumulating comp points. Good thing- they were not taking the points from you, so you didn't even notice. You actually were not PAYING with your points. You just had to accumulate set amount in some time...

Just check your player admin more often ;)

[LTUFlawless]

... ive never seen a PokerNews Freeroll an Instant cash freeroll or any freeroll that i was eligible for other than the $50 ones that are open to everybody

I see only one answer to your concern- You didn't accumulate enough points for the bigger ones.

[almurray]

Still seem quite a bit off from the other comp point system to unlock these bonus's I have one i'm trying to clear from a while back... and if it still takes 2500 points to unlock $10 this is going to take alot longer and think it needs a fix

Now 750 for $10 I think

[realbadhand]

wow....ummm guess I wont be coming back...unless they do actually convert the points then maybe...hmmm ;-)

[realbadhand]

played a few pennie hands and points seem easy to get...why all the crying?

[mama66]

Thank you for the info in the first post of this topic lol.(which everyone seems to be missing lol). I was wondering where my comp points went , especially after i read on pdc.com that there would be tournies we can buy our way into with our comp points. Had looked everywhere and couldn't find them , so i was quite relieved to see this post that a link would be added soon. So thank you very much for the info! Now the bigger question lol, it says for every 10k coupon you have you will be given 500 points. Well I have a bunch of ladyz who only recieved 100 vip points for their 10 k coupons and they are (to put it mildly) mad as wet hens lol!! They have asked support what is goiing on and support keeps telling them they only get 100 points per 10 k ticket. That is not what is posted everywhere on every merge site. Can somebody please explain this to me?? thanks, cindy

[xwinmuch]

Alli can say i got 1000 Vip Points for my 50k FR coupon and 500 VP for my 10k FR Coupon.

Maybe that were 1k Fr Coupons?

[TeamShaft]

I also saw that we can get into tournaments with our comp points. When will these tournaments start? We have 60 days to use our comp points...is this from the day in which they finally allow us to actually use them? I am quite upset that the comp points to change over to VIP points, based on some ratio at least.

[rubnik]

I still dont know what is with my comp points now. I didnt get any vip points for having been eligible for the freerolls before nor can I enter any shop right now. And I also didnt see any tourney in which I could buy in with these points. Guess we will have to wait until the shop starts. But, already asked that several times but not getting no answer yet, will I be able to enter this shop unless I reached earth level?

[lucks00]

What is the earth level...I hear ppl talking bout this but I dont see it anywhere. IM on PDC, so is this on a diff skin?

[fritzson]

What is the earth level...I hear ppl talking bout this but I dont see it anywhere. IM on PDC, so is this on a diff skin?


On PDC you have Diamons, Spades, Hearts, Clubs and Royalty.


On Carbon you have Earth, Wind, Fire, Water and Ether.


Yes! There is a difference between them!


http://www.pdcpoker.com/vip/VIPtiers.html

http://www.carbonpoker.com/vip/VIPtiers.html

[lucks00]

Ok got it!!! Thx

[pkrplr4116]

What you were or weren't missing were freerolls available to folks who earned a certain amount of comp points within a set timeframe. Folks who played XXXX points within 48 hrs were eligible for $1,000 and $2,000 FRs. Then, on the weekends, if you made a certain # of comp points/week you were eligible for the $10,000 FR. Once/month the game was for $50,000. Its over now, so doon't stress over it.

[rubnik]

I have a question about the VIP tiers: I need to gain 5000 VIP for the entire level earth. Do I have to earn them within one month? Or will I reach the level once I got them at any time?? (makes sense for I read that u loose 500 VIP when beeing inactive for 60 days).

If its not necesseary to earn thwe points within 1 month i have to say the system looks a bit better than i thought first.

[fritzson]

I have a question about the VIP tiers: I need to gain 5000 VIP for the entire level earth. Do I have to earn them within one month? Or will I reach the level once I got them at any time?? (makes sense for I read that u loose 500 VIP when beeing inactive for 60 days).

If its not necesseary to earn thwe points within 1 month i have to say the system looks a bit better than i thought first.


Well, I think it is over time... Otherwise I think it will be revolt in here. ;)


It is not saying that you must earn X points within a month... and that would be trouble for low stake players.. and this system was supposed to be good even for lose stake players...

[GrandpaKim]

So far, it's all hot air.

Tried to enter a tournament with my points. Says I don't have enough. You would think over 200,000 points would be enough to enter most any tournament, especially one asking for only 5450 points.

I'm not surprised though. I've always had trouble redeeming my comp points. I try to buy a chipset -- not available. Same for any other item I tried to buy -- not available. Now I try to go to the Royalty store and the link takes me to a brag page that tells me how wonderful PDC is.

Sorry boys and girls, I just don't believe anymore.

B'bye :beaten:

[Honsey]

So far, it's all hot air.

Tried to enter a tournament with my points. Says I don't have enough. You would think over 200,000 points would be enough to enter most any tournament, especially one asking for only 5450 points.

I'm not surprised though. I've always had trouble redeeming my comp points. I try to buy a chipset -- not available. Same for any other item I tried to buy -- not available. Now I try to go to the Royalty store and the link takes me to a brag page that tells me how wonderful PDC is.

Sorry boys and girls, I just don't believe anymore.

B'bye :beaten:As far as I know, they haven't put up the link yet so that you can buy in with your old comp points. It is suppose to be in your player admin area. Right now buy in with points for tournaments on the schedule is only for VIP/Royalty points.

[WannaTalkPoker]

As far as I know, they haven't put up the link yet so that you can buy in with your old comp points. It is suppose to be in your player admin area. Right now buy in with points for tournaments on the schedule is only for VIP/Royalty points.
Which has been made pretty clear in about half a dozen topics on the subject already...I wish more people would READ the information already available here rather than just jumping in with a kneejerk reaction...:confused:

[fritzson]

Which has been made pretty clear in about half a dozen topics on the subject already...I wish more people would READ the information already available here rather than just jumping in with a kneejerk reaction...:confused:

To much reading... that is why! ;)

[voodoouser]

I'm so angry about the new VIP points system...
I've signed up for the "first deposit bonus", i had to make 4000 comp points for 10$ but with the new system i have to make 1200 VIP points which means i have to play almost 5 times more to unblock the same amount.
It's simply NOT possible for a human.

[xwinmuch]

What upsets me a little bit is that that the reseted all players back to the basic level!
And i'm still waiting for the link to the old Comp Points. I still have over 300k unused Comp Points. So i hope the enable us to pay for some tournaments with them soon.

[fritzson]

I'm so angry about the new VIP points system...
I've signed up for the "first deposit bonus", i had to make 4000 comp points for 10$ but with the new system i have to make 1200 VIP points which means i have to play almost 5 times more to unblock the same amount.
It's simply NOT possible for a human.

You get points for the pot you are in... the bigger pot, the more points...
So, in the end, it must go faster... unless you are very very tight and passive.


I love this new system...
Sadly, at the moment, I don't have the opportunity to
play like I want too. :(

[rubnik]

You get points for the pot you are in... the bigger pot, the more points...
So, in the end, it must go faster... unless you are very very tight and passive.


I love this new system...
Sadly, at the moment, I don't have the opportunity to
play like I want too. :(

You wrote several tims that u like the new system - thats ur right.

I think it is ok to gain points according to the rake that is paid in a pot.
The question is, how many points u get and , on the other hand, how many u need to receive the benefits. Some people complain that they dont like the system in the way it works at the moment - that is their right.

And, to the people who say "dont complain about the points system - poker is made for winning money on the tables":
The benefits are a kind of rakeback which are offered by every poker site. They dont give presents, they only give back a part of it to the players. Many reasonable players wouldnt play any site which doesnt offer a rakeback in any way.

[Nukem78]

You wrote several tims that u like the new system - thats ur right.

I think it is ok to gain points according to the rake that is paid in a pot.
The question is, how many points u get and , on the other hand, how many u need to receive the benefits. Some people complain that they dont like the system in the way it works at the moment - that is their right.

And, to the people who say "dont complain about the points system - poker is made for winning money on the tables":
The benefits are a kind of rakeback which are offered by every poker site. They dont give presents, they only give back a part of it to the players. Many reasonable players wouldnt play any site which doesnt offer a rakeback in any way.

Well Said

[fritzson]

You wrote several tims that u like the new system - thats ur right.

I think it is ok to gain points according to the rake that is paid in a pot.
The question is, how many points u get and , on the other hand, how many u need to receive the benefits. Some people complain that they dont like the system in the way it works at the moment - that is their right.

And, to the people who say "dont complain about the points system - poker is made for winning money on the tables":
The benefits are a kind of rakeback which are offered by every poker site. They dont give presents, they only give back a part of it to the players. Many reasonable players wouldnt play any site which doesnt offer a rakeback in any way.


HUH?? :confused:

Back the tape a little...


Before the change the guy needed 4000 comp points to get the money...
Now he needs 1200 vip points... That is 2800 less points then before...
and he says it is not human! Come one...

Of course it is human, if you play a little...


The question was: is it human or not??? It is human, and everything depends on how you play!


I don't blame the guy for not liking the system... it is up to him.
But I think it is wrong to say it is not human...


It is a bit harder to get points if you are tight and passive, than if you
are more aggressive and/or looser...

My point was everything depends on what kind of game....



Sorry I put the word "I love the system" in the post that was obviously too much ... My bad! :beaten:

I am not forcing him the like it! That is another thing! :rolleyes:

[fritzson]

I can add one important word to my post: PATIENCE! :wave:

[FinishEmOff]

Guys, THis was a total bait and switch. Remeber?? MARCH Madness... the more points you earn.... blah blah...., oh by the way.. Comp points are totally useless after 1 april, has anyone been able to enter a tournament here with comp points yet? Love the rake back here... but Im looking for a better site that I can export hand histories, and flops not being balance biased. They took away the bad beat blog freeroll. Earned every week the freerolls, the 50K in 2 weeks easy... and now?? I have to bust my ass to get the deposit bounes that came in every week without breaking a sweat...
******* Bound just 27% rake, but everything works....
Just hate getting fkd and smiled at, at the same time....

[Nukem78]

HUH?? :confused:

Back the tape a little...


Before the change the guy needed 4000 comp points to get the money...
Now he needs 1200 vip points... That is 2800 less points then before...
and he says it is not human! Come one...


I don't mean to be picky, but this is totally illogical. What if you went out ot eat and the guy said it's 5.5 new money units to eat what used to cost you $10, and you are all happy, but then he explains that it's $10 per money unit, so you need $55. The scales are not equal!

[xwinmuch]

I never liked to clear bonusses on sites with contributed rake.
Aren't you a low limit player like me fritzon? My ex-team mate from Gamblers 3000?
There are always alternatives. Now without points for playing games like Blackjack sites with rakeback look even better!

[fritzson]

I don't mean to be picky, but this is totally illogical. What if you went out ot eat and the guy said it's 5.5 new money units to eat what used to cost you $10, and you are all happy, but then he explains that it's $10 per money unit, so you need $55. The scales are not equal!


I am not going to argue with you.. it is two different systems... *aware*

Before you could sit and fold and fold and fold... and still get points.... almost for free.

Now, you have to pay for the points. Agreed to that.. and I think it is fair.



Logical or not....



But it is human... because you get points for your pots. Of course, if you want it fast - it can probably cost more than it taste..

That is why I add Patience!

[fritzson]

I never liked to clear bonusses on sites with contributed rake.
Aren't you a low limit player like me fritzon? My ex-team mate from Gamblers 3000?
There are always alternatives. Now without points for playing games like Blackjack sites with rakeback look even better!


Yes and yes... thought the nick was familiar. :wave:

[fritzson]

I am not going to argue with you.. it is two different systems... *aware*

Before you could sit and fold and fold and fold... and still get points.... almost for free.

Now, you have to pay for the points. Agreed to that.. and I think it is fair.



Logical or not....



But it is human... because you get points for your pots. Of course, if you want it fast - it can probably cost more than it taste..

That is why I add Patience!


I would like to add something too: when you have enought vip points; you can use the points to buy in to tourneys and win even more money...

That is something you was not able to do before!

In my opinion it is plus points for the site. :)


:D

[xwinmuch]

I would like to add something too: when you have enought vip points; you can use the points to buy in to tourneys and win even more money...

That is something you was not able to do before!

In my opinion it is plus points for the site. :)


:D

You could do it on PDC Poker or *******!

[voodoouser]

hi fritzson, i think you missed the point of my message.
I had to play 5 hours with the old comp point system to clear 10$ bonus, today i played about 5 hours and got 200 VIP points which means i have to play 30 hours to reach 1200 VIP points to clear 10$. It's 6 times more, and that makes carbonpoker the hardest poker room to clear the deposit bonus (yes i played on many many rooms before).
That's what i was talking about.

[fritzson]

hi fritzson, i think you missed the point of my message.
I had to play 5 hours with the old comp point system to clear 10$ bonus, today i played about 5 hours and got 200 VIP points which means i have to play 30 hours to reach 1200 VIP points to clear 10$. It's 6 times more, and that makes carbonpoker the hardest poker room to clear the deposit bonus (yes i played on many many rooms before).
That's what i was talking about.


Could be a language problem.. sorry for that! :o

Of courser there is a change... you only get points for pots you are
involved in...

Before you got points even if you were not involved in the pot.


I would like to tell you try this room: XXXXXX... but I am not allowed to mention other poker rooms here. :wave:


I can understand if it is a change on that part.. but still, it is human. ;)


But patience.. you will get there.... A few all ins and you have the points in no time. ;) :D Just teasing, but be patience... :wave:

[fritzson]

You could do it on PDC Poker or XXXX.com!

Not allowed to mention other merge sites either.
I did your work Honsey! :wave: :D


You couldn't buy in directly,.. you could buy coupons for some tourneys and sats.

You can choose to buy in directly with points ... at least on carbon. Have not been playing on PDC since before the update.

I am a carbon player mostly. :)

[seakcsn]

I don't usually play above 50nl, but I went on a heater at 100nl on saturday night and ended up playing a lot of shorthanded or heads up 200nl and 500nl. at the end of the session I had earned $65 in rakeback and like 1500 vip points.

I guess on a normal week I get about that much in rakeback so that makes it seem like the points aren't that unachievable. everyone is speculating about the points, how much is everybody earning?

[xwinmuch]

You couldn't buy in directly,.. you could buy coupons for some tourneys and sats.

You can choose to buy in directly with points ... at least on carbon. Have not been playing on PDC since before the update.

I am a carbon player mostly. :)

lol fritzson.
Did you ever compare the Carbon and the PDC forum? They have the same posts anyway. So you should be at least be able to write about these two.:win: And you should always look for the best sites on the same network, even if they do censor you if you write about it!:crown:

[sickofchange]

Well here we are, almost a week later and still no use for our old comp points.

[xwinmuch]

Well here we are, almost a week later and still no use for our old comp points.

And they the buy in with Vip points is working??? Don't know how to do that.

[fritzson]

lol fritzson.
Did you ever compare the Carbon and the PDC forum? They have the same posts anyway. So you should be at least be able to write about these two.:win: And you should always look for the best sites on the same network, even if they do censor you if you write about it!:crown:

:( Unfortunately I am not allowed to long in on PDC forum, not even with my PDC nick. LOLs... but I know there is a part of the forum which is not the same as Carbon's....

Well, the main problem that I have experienced is, I can't deposit on other
merge sites and use their promos, since carbon is my "main room".

That is why I don't look aroud that much.. and I know there is a difference
between the sites.


I can of course make a normal deposit... but, how I twist and turn things I always end up on Carbon somehow. :crown: And there is a good reason for that... I was born at Carbon poker and I am grown up on Carbon. LMAO I knew almost nothing about texas holdem when I signed up on Carbon poker. :)

[xwinmuch]

:( Unfortunately I am not allowed to long in on PDC forum, not even with my PDC nick. LOLs... but I know there is a part of the forum which is not the same as Carbon's....

Well, the main problem that I have experienced is, I can't deposit on other
merge sites and use their promos, since carbon is my "main room".

That is why I don't look aroud that much.. and I know there is a difference
between the sites.


I can of course make a normal deposit... but, how I twist and turn things I always end up on Carbon somehow. :crown: And there is a good reason for that... I was born at Carbon poker and I am grown up on Carbon. LMAO I knew almost nothing about texas holdem when I signed up on Carbon poker. :)

The ex Poker.com forum (now PDC Poker) is much older, so i guess that's why there are more topics there. I played there before Carbon Poker even existed i think.

If you stop playing for 2 months, you can get bonusses from another merge site. Never worked for me though.

Please explain to me how you use Vip Points to pay for tournaments. Don't see how it is working at the moment.

[fritzson]

The ex Poker.com forum (now PDC Poker) is much older, so i guess that's why there are more topics there. I played there before Carbon Poker even existed i think.

If you stop playing for 2 months, you can get bonusses from another merge site. Never worked for me though.

Please explain to me how you use Vip Points to pay for tournaments. Don't see how it is working at the moment.



When I register for some tournaments, mostly rebuys, I get a big sign saying:

Would you like to buy in for:

$X.XX

XXX points. (meaning vip points)


I mark a check box for what I would like to buy in for. I think it is great! :)


I don't know if I have an option later to rebuy with points, because I haven't
bought in with points yet. :wave:

[xwinmuch]

When I register for some tournaments, mostly rebuys, I get a big sign saying:

Would you like to buy in for:

$X.XX

XXX points. (meaning vip points)


I mark a check box for what I would like to buy in for. I think it is great! :)


I don't know if I have an option later to rebuy with points, because I haven't
bought in with points yet. :wave:

Now i found it! Cool.:cool: Ty fritzson.:)

[fritzson]

Now i found it! Cool.:cool: Ty fritzson.:)

You are welcome... I just figured it out.. it is only on guaranteed. :D




Put on PM option, in your user CP. :wave:

[xwinmuch]

Put on PM option, in your user CP. :wave:

Ok. I did it.:wave:

[fritzson]

You have a PM.

[JrMontana08]

I'm trying to get used to this VIP system ~ and honestly, it seems to be nice.

Played at a few cash tables (ring tables) and collected a few points (700).

I hope other players will be able to get used to this system, too.

Good Luck at the tables!

[BustedJJ]

I just checked my player admin and there is now a link to purchase tournament coupons. I play on carbon and my link is "Purchase Tournament Entry" under Current Promotions tab.

[HOTPANTS5572]

mines is on my player admin on pdc woohoo :win:

[sickofchange]

Wow what an awesome selection of tourneys we can enter with our comp points. :rolleyes:

[sickofchange]

I can't believe they aren't letting us use our existing comp points in the new store. SUCH BS.

We haven't had a store on here forever, and now there's a new one, and we start back at 0.

UGH.

[MUNKEYNUTZZ]

Yes It is very obvious that the point system is absolutely terrible. They are being awarded on about a 10 to 1 ratio from what they have always been prior to now. I have to play as you said about 5 times longer for the same amount. There are fewer people playing the cash game tables, and the ones that are are raising the rake to get the points or get to the rake back level. That is exactly the reason they claim to have changed them, because people were abusing it, well guess what Carbon! If you really think about it though they benefit all around, more rake, fewer freerolls, less Bonus payouts, the only people that will be able to play here will be higher stake players that dont care about the points. Right now for instance 1700 people on line, usually there would be 3 to 4000 playing at this time. Serves em right and i frankly hope that they fail miserably and get what they deserve.

[MUNKEYNUTZZ]

i have just got to reply to the guy playing 50, 100 and 200 NL , OF COURSE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING POINTS AT THAT LEVEL!

[MUNKEYNUTZZ]

ya i agree on the tourney selection , you can get the 50k freeroll one shot for 50,000 to what used to be 5000 earned, and you can get a second level $60 satellite for 150,000 THATS JUST EFFEN AWESOME! Thanks for the generosity Crabon.

[xwinmuch]

ya i agree on the tourney selection , you can get the 50k freeroll one shot for 50,000 to what used to be 5000 earned, and you can get a second level $60 satellite for 150,000 THATS JUST EFFEN AWESOME! Thanks for the generosity Crabon.

You could buy a $60 Satelite Coupon for 150,000 CP before April (on PDC at least). When you compare it with what such Coupons costed at :Ad:xxx.xxx last month, it's no bargain at all. Just the normal rates.

But i'm still happy that i get rid of most my CPs. And get some Coupons for it.

Does anyone know when the special CP Freerolls will be held?

[xwinmuch]

Yes It is very obvious that the point system is absolutely terrible. They are being awarded on about a 10 to 1 ratio from what they have always been prior to now. I have to play as you said about 5 times longer for the same amount. There are fewer people playing the cash game tables, and the ones that are are raising the rake to get the points or get to the rake back level. That is exactly the reason they claim to have changed them, because people were abusing it, well guess what Carbon! If you really think about it though they benefit all around, more rake, fewer freerolls, less Bonus payouts, the only people that will be able to play here will be higher stake players that dont care about the points. Right now for instance 1700 people on line, usually there would be 3 to 4000 playing at this time. Serves em right and i frankly hope that they fail miserably and get what they deserve.

Around 2000 people played the old 50k Freerolls every month. When you consider how easy it was to qualify, that's probably the number of all the real money players here.:cool:

[fritzson]

So, I got some coupons for my old points...

I have a question now,


I understand all the options except for this one.

Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls, when should I use it?
Am I allowed to use it for coming vip freerolls or do I have to use it for those
easter tourneys?

Buy in for Special Easter swags is 25.000 comp points...


Ok, just read a mail and it sounds like that one should be use for Easter Swag?


I am a little confused, maybe language problems.. at least there are tourneys to put them on. :)

[Snoggler]

Yeah and i spent 50k comp points prior on a 10+1 coupon. I could have gone for 2 easter swags! :beaten: This is why wished they would have answered. There is no other way to get into them now. With only 5,200 comp points. SUPRISE. No offense but all i ever ask is for info upfront! Don't see harm in it. OH well not suprising :wave:

[Honsey]

So, I got some coupons for my old points...

I have a question now,


I understand all the options except for this one.

Entry coupon for "Comp Points for VIP Points" Freerolls, when should I use it?
Am I allowed to use it for coming vip freerolls or do I have to use it for those
easter tourneys?

Buy in for Special Easter swags is 25.000 comp points...


Ok, just read a mail and it sounds like that one should be use for Easter Swag?


I am a little confused, maybe language problems.. at least there are tourneys to put them on. :)
I think the coupons you buy with your old comp points are for the different new levels of VIP Freerolls. But, on the tournament detail page for the Easter swag tournaments it says to purchase the coupons in your player admin but I don't see a listing for it. The only 25000 comp point coupon you can buy is the one you are talking about so don't worry, I don't think it's a language problem, it is very confusing.

[MASKOAA]

So theres no way to use your old points ? I dont see them anywhere.... =(

[fritzson]

So theres no way to use your old points ? I dont see them anywhere.... =(

Look for the word Purchase in the left column of links... on carbon it is
below the vip section.

[ropndonkies]

So theres no way to use your old points ? I dont see them anywhere.... =(

you can now buy some tourny entries via player admin:wave:

[fritzson]

you can now buy some tourny entries via player admin:wave:

What he said!:D

[realbadhand]

under player admin go over poker royalty then more windows drop down, its there.
As a side note....wow fritzson your the super spammer here now lol *waves*

[fritzson]

under player admin go over poker royalty then more windows drop down, its there.
As a side note....wow fritzson your the super spammer here now lol *waves*

I am aiming for the big boys now... huh.. meant KK... :D

:wave:

[fritzson]

BTW, it is almost like the new point system... :P :D

[ChaseMan16]

Im just happy to be able to use the old comp points. See ya at the tables

[Pax24fr]

Wow what an awesome selection of tourneys we can enter with our comp points. :rolleyes:

Yes what a joke ! :rolleyes:
$2.20 Satellite $2.20 Satellite Coupon 15000 1$=7000cp
$11 Satellite $11 Satellite Coupon 50000 1$=4500cp
$60 Satellite $60 Satellite Coupon 150000 1$=2500cp
Deep Stack Satellite $109 DeepStack Coupon 250000 1$=2300cp

Just remember playing cards twin deck was 35.000cp in store (with international mail cost...) and now what you get ? 2 coupons for a 2$ satellite... :mad: big joke.

I got 250 affiliates and most of them are "little players" in CG and have 10-50k cp even if they play each day on Carbon (MTT a lot) and they really feel Carbon don't like them and is a room for high stakes players. Most of them can only get one 2.20$ coupon after one year on Carbon LOL.

I know marketing people said that cp was already "paid" because they are used for bonus and freerolls, and that why they offer nothing more than this ridiculous exchange.
But marketing people are wrong, many players have difficulty to clear bonus, many players can't play cp freerolls, so many players have their cp never "used".

On the last $50,000 Monthly Freeroll we have only 13 affiliates in, that's 5% ! What about the 95% other players ? :mad:

And so, there was a contract for cp, and it was not "cp are used to get freeroll entry and bonus, then DELETED", cp was a measurement, as all other rooms, for clearing bonus and offer acces to freeroll but still completely exist for the store.

I'm really upset with marketing people looking only to high stakes.

[NiteMixr]

I got 1956 "comp points" Super new to the site and I think it's a shame/sham what they are doing w/ your comp points!!! Even with my few points, if they want a new system, then fine, but allow the "comp points" to be CONVERTED into VIP points.About 10 -1 ratio is what I see so my 1956 comp pnts should be worth 19.56 VIP pnts. just my $0.02 I can't even do a single freeroll with that few points!!!!:mad:

[fritzson]

I got 1956 "comp points" Super new to the site and I think it's a shame/sham what they are doing w/ your comp points!!! Even with my few points, if they want a new system, then fine, but allow the "comp points" to be CONVERTED into VIP points.About 10 -1 ratio is what I see so my 1956 comp pnts should be worth 19.56 VIP pnts. just my $0.02 I can't even do a single freeroll with that few points!!!!:mad:

It is too late, because the info reached some of the players, the info saying that
you should spend your points since they were going to take that system away.

Because of that, many players spended their points before the update.

Us others, maybe we missed the info or thought we still had time to collect points. I mean, this vip system has been up on the wall for a very very long
time and nothing has happened.... Well, until 1st of April. So, who could actually know it would happen now.

They released this "shop" for us to spend or points on coupons. I must say,
that is actually better than nothing.. because I know other merge skin which
has not even given this opportunity. Skin there you don't get anything for
your old points.

Since so many spended points before the update and others have spended
their points on coupons PDC/Carbon can't convert it to vip points, they can't
even make a nice freeroll from it.

If if was possible I would gladly give you my last points. 1000 something,
that I couldn't use.

[fritzson]

Sorry!!! Didn't read good enough... :o

Still, if I could give you my last points I would do it, and that wouldn't be enough anyway..

[NiteMixr]

Sorry!!! Didn't read good enough... :o

Still, if I could give you my last points I would do it, and that wouldn't be enough anyway..

would gladly donate mine also...too bad you can't a custom table using points.
maybe someone could get enough for a freeroll or sumtin;)

[xwinmuch]

If you don't have enough Comp Points just play sidegames!:D
I did play Blackjack today and my Comp Ponts increased.:win:

[fritzson]

would gladly donate mine also...too bad you can't a custom table using points.
maybe someone could get enough for a freeroll or sumtin;)

Or they could maybe do something with the remaining points to give to
those who couldn't buy anything from the comp points store.

[Locksley]

For what it took to make all of my "old" Comp Points (money + rake + time), its a slap in the face to see what they are worth now. I once read that they would eventually be turned into (worth) Tourney Entries. This is one of the reasons I retained and collected them.

The new payment scheme for "old" Comp Points is a complete rip off. What are they gonna do when people obtain large amounts VIP Points, Change Formats again????

:mad::mad::mad:

[fritzson]

For what it took to make all of my "old" Comp Points (money + rake + time), its a slap in the face to see what they are worth now. I once read that they would eventually be turned into (worth) Tourney Entries. This is one of the reasons I retained and collected them.

The new payment scheme for "old" Comp Points is a complete rip off. What are they gonna do when people obtain large amounts VIP Points, Change Formats again????

:mad::mad::mad:


Hopefully you won more than you payed in rake... and your winning was cover
your time too.... :wave:

[seakcsn]

most people earned bonuses and or monthly promotion money with their comp points so I think the tourney coupons are just about where they should be. it is basically something for nothing. not to mention the freerolls they had with the flattest payout structure imaginable... I know as rakeback player who couldn't participate in the monthly point promotions those freerolls put tons of money in my account.

the tourney coupons are low but you could turn a $2 into a $109 and turn that into 15k potentially. I don't think it's a slap in the face, I think it's a gift.

I especially like the easter swag idea, I never made enough points for a sweatshirt so winning one in the tournament would be even better.

I know I have left points behind on other sites that weren't worth enough to buy anything so this the first site i've ever got anything from.

[Pax24fr]

You are totally wrong. You can't say "most of players", as I explain 95% of our affiliates don't have enough points for even a so bad 2$ coupon and it's the same amount as cards from store ! Let me laugh, did 2 decks cards +postage is less than 2$ ? NO.
"Most of players" did not used it on freerolls. And concerning bonus, comp points are not an exchange for bonus but a measurement.

Yes it is a slap on the face of "poor" and low stakes players. You know all those players putting 20 or 30$ per month on poker and feeding shark, those players making a room having 3.000 online players instead of 250...

[Pax24fr]

Just right now again, on my forum this question from an affiliate :
On fait quoi avec 5379 points ?
no need for translate i suppose...
He is playing since 8 months on Carbon which is his main room now, only SnG 1$/2$ and some low MTT (quarter quickly etc...) and sometime CG 0,02/0,04 (no cp on that).
I (and him) suppose Carbon marketing don't care about him. :rolleyes:

[seakcsn]

if I deposited $20 at a site (which I have) I wouldn't realistically expect any kind of reward (which I didn't get) unless I built up a bankroll and contributed to the rake.

on this site I made a small deposit got a sign up bonus + a rakeback deal and grinded micro nl to get the bonus. made a small profit but had a blast playing poker... which was why I signed up in the first place.

either way I think carbon has made an improvement with the vip , I made the earth ride in six days playing 100nl and 200nl after work in my spare time. so even someone playing the smallest limits will achieve this in a few months to half a year. if they improve and build their bankrolls they will get there faster.

there are only two reasons to play poker, to have fun or make money. bonuses are just that.

[seakcsn]

earth "tier" in six days

no edit

[Pax24fr]

Well again, 100NL you need a BR of 2.000$ to play it safely, even 1.000$, i'm not talking for this players ! I'm talking for people with 50$ to 300$ which are surely the most of Carbon players, just look how many people playing 20$-50$ MTT daily...
Right now 15 players on TH all limit NL100 and more, 20 on NL50, 50 under...

[ineedcash112]

is it possible to transfer my old points?

or can i use my old points to buy a seat and then transfer my seat?

if it is not possible right now, can someone please forward my suggestion to the higher management, thx