Poker tracking software

[Gatornation29]

What kind of poker tracking software is compatible with Carbon Poker?

[fritzson]

your own brain.... :beaten:

[Snoggler]

Good answer Fritzson ;) :wave: :D

[GoMukYerSelf]

Results tracking?

Hold Em Manager works but you need to purchase the "Merge Converter" for it.
You can use the software, but only with information you have accumulated from playing. You can't purchase hand history from a third party. (I was told purchasing hand history is not ok)
If anyone at Merge can confirm this, that would be great.

& Sharkscope

[Snoggler]

I would think that if your going to use a crutch to play a online game that you cannot use a crutch for in real time. To buy hand history would be i think against fair play!? Correct me if im wrong. Should you be able to buy hand historys? Who's hand historys? Should you have that info on someone that you havnt played ? Just cause you can pay for that info?

If your going to use tracker. To gain a advantage against others that use their brain's. And make those bad calls that turn out good. Well fine. But use your own info like everyone else.

I still dont see how tracker should be allowed to be use by anyone. Even if you pay for it. Someone is making money so you can have a unfair advantage.

Sorry but ill always be against a crutch of such! Just my opinion.

[lucks00]

If you can buy someone's hand history, then the person's whose hand history is taken should be paid!! I didnt think you could even do this...but to be honest, if someone is willing to pay for it-who cares. Its not like you get to see the person's cards when ur playing. Its an advantage but I dont see how big of an advantage it is. A lot of players mix their play up and the one's that dont mix their play, you dont need hand histories to figure it out.

[GoMukYerSelf]

If you can buy someone's hand history, then the person's whose hand history is taken should be paid!! I didn't think you could even do this...but to be honest, if someone is willing to pay for it-who cares. Its not like you get to see the person's cards when ur playing. Its an advantage but I don't see how big of an advantage it is. A lot of players mix their play up and the one's that don't mix their play, you don't need hand histories to figure it out.look at pokertableratings, they have a mining program that has tracked billions of hands and they sell them. Every site I know of doesn't allow this, but obviously people are using it. I don't think any of them track Merge though.

[carlobee]

your own brain.... :beaten:

this is true. :)

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[JrMontana08]

If you can buy someone's hand history, then the person's whose hand history is taken should be paid!! I didnt think you could even do this...but to be honest, if someone is willing to pay for it-who cares. Its not like you get to see the person's cards when ur playing. Its an advantage but I dont see how big of an advantage it is. A lot of players mix their play up and the one's that dont mix their play, you dont need hand histories to figure it out.
That's illegal.

I think there is NO PROBLEM with any poker tracking software, you don't have either...
You guys hate the HUD which shows the stats real time.

[Miklosik]

I don't understand all the hulabaloo about tracking software. You know what you have and you know what you started with. grade school math.

[GoMukYerSelf]

That's illegal.That is what I figured but how does PTR get away with it? They are not the only company to offer this service either. There are numerous mining sites out there providing millions if not billions of played hands for a fairly cheap price & they are advertised like its all legit.

[GoMukYerSelf]

I don't understand all the hulabaloo about tracking software. You know what you have and you know what you started with. grade school math.You sound like a friend of mine. That is called playing "your cards". That doesn't tell you that your opponent has VPIP of 40% 3bets @ 75% and folds to a 3bet 35%..cbets 60% & raises 22% oop, etc etc etc. it provides a lot of data and allows you to learn our opponents game making your own cards less relevant in certain situations. You can have garbage rags and exploit him if he has a leak in his game thus making you a few extra BB/100.

say you have 72o in the bb and your opponent limps the button, you check, flop comes out and he cbets, his stats say he folds 90% of the time to a raise over his cbet, which means hes only calling a raise here with the top 10% of his range. He woudn't have limped here with the top 10% of his range. You raise and he folds. Your cards didn't even matter here.

Personally the only thing I don't like about this HUD tracking software is that when a hand goes to showdown, u lose and you choose to muck your cards, anyone using this software can see what your cards were regardless. THAT I think is shady. You should not be provided with any info your opponent chooses to hide from you.

[Survivor777]

Personally the only thing I don't like about this HUD tracking software is that when a hand goes to showdown, u lose and you choose to muck your cards, anyone using this software can see what your cards were regardless. THAT I think is shady. You should not be provided with any info your opponent chooses to hide from you.

You do not need to use any tracking software if the hands go to the river. Even if you muck after the river, you were still in the hand, and all a player has to do is hit 'history' (right bottom of game) to see the mucked cards. It has been like that for a long time, and anyone can see them :wave:

[realbadhand]

OMFG! I had no idea that you can see mucked cards in the history, wow what a joke that is...used to not be that way. And thank you for the great info. Might as well show everything lol.

[Survivor777]

OMFG! I had no idea that you can see mucked cards in the history, wow what a joke that is...used to not be that way. And thank you for the great info. Might as well show everything lol.

I can't recall with accuracy exactly when it was changed, but pretty sure it has been over a year with one of the upgrades. This is ONLY when it goes to showdown. I didn't like it at first, but it just took me a few weeks before I realized the value of seeing mucked cards at showdown ;) and how great it is if you keep notes on players, as I do. :wave:

[lucks00]

To be honest, I wish mucked cards werent shown....there wouldnt be so mannny RunTime Errors lol...

[Survivor777]

Doubt that it has anything to do with it. I could search and tell you when it was added, but I'm tired lol. The runtime errors, etc did not start at that time. No relationship. First mention of being able to see mucked cards when hand goes to the river was 10-10-07 -My daughter searched; way before the runtime errors started ... and maybe even before that date. So, there is no correlation with this either.

[GoMukYerSelf]

You do not need to use any tracking software if the hands go to the river. Even if you muck after the river, you were still in the hand, and all a player has to do is hit 'history' (right bottom of game) to see the mucked cards. It has been like that for a long time, and anyone can see them :wave:Yes you're right, wow. Most other sites don't do that and the tracker still displays them though.

[whatwouldjimbodo]

Yes you're right, wow. Most other sites don't do that and the tracker still displays them though.

i cant think of a site that doesnt do that

[SirLostaLot]

All sites allow that. Even in the Casinos (it is considered rude to ask the Dealer to show a mucked showdown) but, none the less it is legal

[JrMontana08]

You're allowed to track your winnings and losings.
I don't understand what people are trying to say when they have no idea what we're talking about.

[fritzson]

Results tracking?

Hold Em Manager works but you need to purchase the "Merge Converter" for it.
You can use the software, but only with information you have accumulated from playing. You can't purchase hand history from a third party. (I was told purchasing hand history is not ok)
If anyone at Merge can confirm this, that would be great.

& Sharkscope


Sharkscope is not 100%... because all results don't get captured.

Privat tourneys, ladies tourneys and other tourneys which are not on all merge skin are left out. I wouldn't go on that to 100%. I have loads of tourneys which are not captured. :( But, it is fun to have a peek in between.

I have also noticed that you can't even report missed results anymore. :(

[1SnakeBite1]

Change name or playing style on a regular and Tracker Smchmacker

[lucks00]

Doubt that it has anything to do with it. I could search and tell you when it was added, but I'm tired lol. The runtime errors, etc did not start at that time. No relationship. First mention of being able to see mucked cards when hand goes to the river was 10-10-07 -My daughter searched; way before the runtime errors started ... and maybe even before that date. So, there is no correlation with this either.

Im not saying that there's a correlation between them. But for me it is....the main reason I use the hand history is to see the mucked cards. Thats my main use.....and the main cause for the Runtime error for me is when Im opening/closing hand history(mostly closing)...

[1SnakeBite1]

Im not saying that there's a correlation between them. But for me it is....the main reason I use the hand history is to see the mucked cards. Thats my main use.....and the main cause for the Runtime error for me is when Im opening/closing hand history(mostly closing)...

dont close it

[whatwouldjimbodo]

dont close it

thats not the point. he should be able to close it. theres no need for errors like that

[dianediamonds]

well i cant understand this sharkscope its says i am 30 dollers down
i dont think so i only deposited 10 and had over 1000 dollers out
to be honest better off not knowing if you would have won
just enjoy the winning

[lucks00]

Well, it doesnt show cash games....and a bunch of tournaments are also prolly missing. The tournaments have to be on all Merge sites and not just Carbon/PDC-so thats why it shows ur down...

[GoMukYerSelf]

i cant think of a site that doesn't do thatI know for sure ******** will not show the cards if you fold them prior to showdown. Unless you're using an HUD. Maybe after cards are mucked at showdown, otherwise they don't.

[DJHarmon]

yeah .......if you fold prior to showdown at ******* you won't get to see those cards...........only if it goes to showdown............and on the omaha tables if there is an allin HU then all cardz are up..........not in hold em tho so don't really understand that......have to wait for them to show or muck at hold em tables .......

[fritzson]

well i cant understand this sharkscope its says i am 30 dollers down
i dont think so i only deposited 10 and had over 1000 dollers out
to be honest better off not knowing if you would have won
just enjoy the winning


That is what I am saying, it doesn't say what you deposited.... it just shows
win and lose curves.

So, say for example you deposit 10 dollar (deposits does not shows in
sharkscope and not your total bankroll, your money you lose or win on
ring games, does not shows either.)

you put 5 dollar on at privat tourney and win 55 dollar...
then you are up 50 dollar and have a bankroll on 60 dollar...
You can't see this in sharkscope because it doesn't get
captured because it was a privat tourney.

Say you put 10 dollar on a regular tourney and lose,
it will show -10 in sharkscope. Your bankrolls is now 50 dollar.

You play on hour ring game and win 25 dollar, and you
have 75 in your bankroll.

You play a tourney 2 dollar tourney rebuy, you
rebuy 5 times = 10 dollar and 1 addon, thats 12 dollar..
you lose this one. I sharkscope it will show -22...

Say you play another privat tourney 5 doll buy in and
win 50 dollar coupon plus 30 dollar. That gives you
a bankroll on 93 dollar + 50 dollar coupon.

You spend your coupon on a 50 dollar tourney and lose...
it will show in sharkscope -72. But your bankroll is 93.

You put 10 dollar on a reg tourney and win 100...
then it will say you are on +28, but your bankroll will be 183. :)


I am trying to say that sharkscope does not show everything
and def not your bankroll, just winning and loses for tourneys
on all merge skins. :)

[IvonAce]

Sharkscope has the habit of missing your big wins, don't trust it :) It says I'm down 700 odd or something. I wish I had that much to lose :)

Haven't you always been able to see mucked cards at showdown? If they bet and you called you have the right to see their cards and vice versa. The only reasong you don't see cards in a casino is that you have to ask.

[fritzson]

Sharkscope has the habit of missing your big wins, don't trust it :) It says I'm down 700 odd or something. I wish I had that much to lose :)

Haven't you always been able to see mucked cards at showdown? If they bet and you called you have the right to see their cards and vice versa. The only reasong you don't see cards in a casino is that you have to ask.

You have the posibility to muck your cards when you are in late position, only the winning cards shows and the one in early position have to show his card
even if he lose. That's the reason why you should bluff in late position, because
if you got busted no one sees your cards.

[1SnakeBite1]

moneys from promotions or promo tournies, freerolls and cash tables dont count on sharkscope!

[DireWolf71]

You will lose here..End of conversation. Hope I saved you some money.

[SteelmanJohn]

tracking software gives you something to look at when your bank roll is gone.

[fritzson]

tracking software gives you something to look at when your bank roll is gone.

Like a memory, never do same mistake again? :eek:

[IvonAce]

You have the posibility to muck your cards when you are in late position, only the winning cards shows and the one in early position have to show his card
even if he lose. That's the reason why you should bluff in late position, because
if you got busted no one sees your cards.

I was always under the impression that you show your cards if you've bet and been called whatever your position but if you were the caller and lost you don't have to?

[fritzson]

I was always under the impression that you show your cards if you've bet and been called whatever your position but if you were the caller and lost you don't have to?

Nope! No matter if you check, bet or call you can always choose to muck in late pos ( = last to act), even when showdown. But if you all are all in... everyone or two of you, your cards will be shown, that is the only difference.

Try it, check it out! :) Make sure you don't have auto muck on. :wave:

Otherwise, why do we need the muck function if the cards will be show when you are in the pot? ;)

[DJHarmon]

the only way i don't see anyone's cards that call after last raise is if they fold..........if they call, I can see their cards in history........doesn't matter where they are in relation to the winner at showdown.......

[DJHarmon]

you can muck your cards, but your opponents will get to see what you had.........the only ones who do not get to see your cards in history are observers......

[fritzson]

you can muck your cards, but your opponents will get to see what you had.........the only ones who do not get to see your cards in history are observers......

Just noticed that in the hand history.. I was sure I coudn't se mucked cards. :(