U.S. A. online poker players !!

[skinski]

sign your petition here at this link....


http://www.petitiononline.com/LOGNOW/petition.html

[frisis]

thanks skinski,

i'm in. Comment ? "You stay out of my bedroom"

ken

[tazdog2]

I signed it, thanks! #4621

[xpander1216]

I signed it and i think Congress and Senate will love my comments to them #4640 .. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[mimi2mik]

Done. #4684 with comment.

[skinski]

thanks skinski,

i'm in. Comment ? "You stay out of my bedroom"

kenwhen i read that one ken , i just had to laugh....:cool:

[Wvgirl]

IM in ...#4755

[Thaxiss]

I'm in. 4769. No comment tho. (If you can believe that)

[VoxGibson]

4783

[Miklosik]

4785

[funtimes69]

#4819 i'm soooo tired of the U.S and the things they do, taking all our jobs elsewhere and letting people in the country to take the little jobs that are left for us. time to move!!!!!!!!!! this country is free for all but the true americans

[mimi2mik]

:mad: Skin hope you don't mind my using this thread for this but it relates to this issue. Received 4 emails yesterday from sites I've played at,politely telling me that I am no longer welcome to play.One of them I spent most of yesterday trying to deposit and it would not go thru.Took me finally emailing them to find out why,(cause no message indicating I was no longer welcome on site). I feel that these sites that are already banning american players are going to lose big time,when this is resolved.I will not darken their doors again I assure you.:mad:

[tripps]

Signed it. :)

[Survivor777]

:mad: Skin hope you don't mind my using this thread for this but it relates to this issue. Received 4 emails yesterday from sites I've played at,politely telling me that I am no longer welcome to play.One of them I spent most of yesterday trying to deposit and it would not go thru.Took me finally emailing them to find out why,(cause no message indicating I was no longer welcome on site). I feel that these sites that are already banning american players are going to lose big time,when this is resolved.I will not darken their doors again I assure you.:mad:

:eek: Here's another off the internet today:

Boss Media asks US players to withdraw fundsAs a result of the anti-gaming legislation that is about to become law in the United States, Boss Media, the folks behind ? didn't know if I could leave the site name in here, have asked their US Players to withdraw funds from their accounts "as soon as possible."

By Friday, October 6, the company will block all deposits by US players and by the 12th of this month, withdrawals will be blocked!
If you have money at _______________ and are a US-based player, withdraw it as soon as possible!

MY NOTE: Every day I'm reading more and more; all the sites are in a stupid panic. What do we do? The site mentioned in this article is NOT the only site implementing the above :eek: :mad: :confused: In regard to some other posts, I too, just for the heck of it, tried 6 sites and COULD NOT deposit; it was only a test I was doing. I only have money on p.com, but hubby has insisted I withdraw most of it while I still can, and just leave enough for my tourney play. The day Bush signs this, is that the day that MORE sites are going to close their doors to us in the U.S. because their hands will be forced to? :eek: :mad: :confused:

[Kimmiejo]

#4964 :) :wave:

[scotlady]

I as many other non-Americans wish there was something we could do to help, somewhere we can sign to try help you guys:( I searched all over the net for something today, dunno what but just something to try help back you guys. Nothing....

I did however come across this site which I thought may be of interest, just hope I dont get into trouble for posting this. But hey I gotta try something:(

http://www.muffmoney.com/americanpokerfreedom.html

Good Luck to All Americans, sry we cant help. Unless anyone has found something that we can do all I can do is cross my fingers.:(

[scotlady]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I am number 4979

[carz990]

10k, 50k, 1k, 2k freerolls all at european prime time soon cant wait. Feel a little sorry for the americans but then again they voted them into office, solution get them back out next election.

[DangerMouse420]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I am number 4979

How did you sign up?!!!!

Thought it was US only . . .

[scotlady]

How did you sign up?!!!!

Thought it was US only . . .
I clicked on it, filled in details & whoosh:)

[DangerMouse420]

I clicked on it, filled in details & whoosh:)

Sweet need to think of a pithy comment :cool:

Maybe "No representation without taxation":D

[scotlady]

Sweet need to think of a pithy comment :cool:

Maybe "No representation without taxation":D
Yeah wish I could change mine, pretty lame but I didnt think it would let me vote but there ya go. Glad I can do something:)

[skinski]

I clicked on it, filled in details & whoosh:)way to go lady...i know of a few that are doing the same...;)

[Survivor777]

#5027 - with some harsh comments :) I forgot to sign this the other day. p.s. It says U.S. and non-resident U.S. - so all can sign; let's do it

edit: #5029

[scotlady]

#5027 - with some harsh comments :) I forgot to sign this the other day. p.s. It says U.S. and non-resident U.S. - so all can sign; let's do it

edit: #5029


Never seen that bit, all I see is the Eligible signatories: United States Voters and other US Residentsbit, but tough on them, they got mine:P

Quite a few ppl doin it now anyway:)

[scotlady]

My other half just signed too:)

Skinski, just wondering if u wanna make another thread for ALL to sign, I know a few probably wont look in this thread, maybe just an idea to get more names:wave:

[natsdad]

Done, and i emailed Frist to compliment him on his honour and spirit of fair play too...;)

[VoxGibson]

Done, and i emailed Frist to compliment him on his honour and spirit of fair play too...;)

I say we put Phil Ivey against frist, and see if frist still thinks its a game of chance...

[skinski]

My other half just signed too:)

Skinski, just wondering if u wanna make another thread for ALL to sign, I know a few probably wont look in this thread, maybe just an idea to get more names:wave:i must abide by the rules...i'll have to see if any have a problem with that..;)

but for all poker players , please sign it and help ya fellow players out .

http://www.petitiononline.com/LOGNOW/petition.html

[scotlady]

Come on peeps, sign the petition pls:)

[carz990]

Signed it but it wont do no good.

[skinski]

Signed it but it wont do no good.now thats the additude i hear from most bout voteing too ...." i would , but it dont do no good ." thx for signing it tho...

[ference]

http://www.bluffmagazine.com/images/immoralPoker.jpg

[novice49]

Ok im number 5862 so ive said my bit.

[XxSpadexX]

Too bad this couldn't be settle with a "gentlemen's game" of poker. The likes of Phile Ivey, Brunson, etc vs. select members of congress to determine whether or not poker online should be banned.

If they protested due to having to play against pros, one would simply reply that they shouldn't be worried, given that they consider it to be a game of chance anyway. Point made.



- :spades:

[muratore]

they probably would win anyway with a donkmove suckout

[JagFan07]

First Habeas Corpus now Online Poker. Land of the...eeerrrrr...Free!:mad:

[chipraker420]

Im in. 8250. Hope that they realize if it comes down to it, I'll move to Canada!! LOL:win:

[yourcall74]

signed #8290

[SweetSid]

I have been putting your petition link on numerous forums and sites. We need to FIGHT. 200 yrs. ago we were throwing tea off a ship. They say history repeats itself. GOOD LUCK AND I'M ON POKERS SIDE

[gord55]

#9908. Hope enough of the world wide poker playing community take their time to sign up to the cause.

[TallicaBoyz]

i would hate 4 there 2 not be any american poker players online here cause they r the biggggggggggest donkies on here i must have made a few thousand off u donkies:D

[Thaxiss]

tallica not fond of Yankees, it appears

[Miklosik]

has anyone tried to make a neteller deposit in the last couple of days? I had read somewhere that effective 7 november, they would follow US law and stop transfers to gambling sites.

[VoxGibson]

I had read somewhere.

I think because of the rumour mill working overtime on this particular subject, we should all try to site the locations of what we've read in reguards to online gambling.

[finicky]

Thanks for the link Skinski. I'm in and number 11,999 :D

[Miklosik]

I think because of the rumour mill working overtime on this particular subject, we should all try to site the locations of what we've read in reguards to online gambling.
you are right Vox, we should, but I read it on another forum that had a link to neteller letter and I didn't want to mention any other sites by name and find myself in trouble here.

[Miklosik]

The United States has arrested two former executives of Neteller yesterday and charged them with money laundering. Neteller suspended the trading of its shares on the London stock exchange. This is not a good thing.

[tous22]

The United States has arrested two former executives of Neteller yesterday and charged them with money laundering. Neteller suspended the trading of its shares on the London stock exchange. This is not a good thing.

so uh...should I be closing my neteller count now?

[Miklosik]

they just may close it for you. They immediately stopped all instacash transactions.

[tous22]

Interesting, well thanks for the heads up. was planning to withdraw a little bit for my trip this weekend but I guess not anymore!

[skinski]

Well folks, Neteller has suspended U.S. players from depositing to online gaming sites. This is just the first step to our demise as online gamers. We need to act, Lets not sit on our duffs and take it. If everyone would write or call our government officials it CAN make a difference. Also get involved in the gaming or poker organizations such as WPA or the PPA. This step is going to start hurting webmasters and U.S. affiliate accounts as a whole. So PLEASE fight for YOUR rights and call or write your local and federal government. Below you will see some info for a start. Thanks for reading, and may we all draw a straight flush on this issue.

The following are the chief authors of the Port Security Legislation. Call them and ask them to remove the Internet Gambling Language from the Port Securities Bill.

Senator Peter King (R-NY) 202-224-7896

Senator Bennie Thompson (D-MS) 202-224-5876

Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) 202-224-3004

Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) 202-224-2523

Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 202-224-4041

Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) 202-224-3931

US Senate
http://www.house.gov/

White House
mailto:comments@whitehouse.gov
Comments: 202-456-1111
mailto:vice_president@whitehouse.gov



Also I would suggest that everyone needs to sign this petition folks , it dont take but a minute to do so and it's never to late .....just click that link. http://www.petitiononline.com/LOGNOW/petition.html

[armbrust]

Im not us citizen so i can not sing but my mom and my two brothers are us citizens , so i just passed this to them , so count at least with 3 more signs.
Thanks earl.

[JayNYC]

Pardon for stating the obvious but...

If anyone is going to get involved in supporting third party organizations, I encourage them to research information about any would be organization prior to pledging support.

[Miklosik]

Senator Peter King (R-NY) 202-224-7896

Senator Bennie Thompson (D-MS) 202-224-5876

Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) 202-224-3004

Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) 202-224-2523

Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 202-224-4041

Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) 202-224-3931

it would be interesting to know how many of these senators have spouses playing bingo in the basement of their local churches. Although i guess that really isn't the same thing. It is still legal to physically go to a casino to play poker.

[Miklosik]

Pardon for stating the obvious but...

If anyone is going to get involved in supporting third party organizations, I encourage them to research information about any would be organization prior to pledging support.

so true. We are so blinded by having poker taken away from us that we may jump on the bandwagon of any alliance willing to try to get it back for us. I haven't joined the PPA or the WPA because i've not yet taken the time to research their missions. I am not saying that anything is underhanded or cloaked about either organization, just that I haven't aligned with either at this point.

[JayNYC]

so true. We are so blinded by having poker taken away from us that we may jump on the bandwagon of any alliance willing to try to get it back for us. I haven't joined the PPA or the WPA because i've not yet taken the time to research their missions. I am not saying that anything is underhanded or cloaked about either organization, just that I haven't aligned with either at this point.


Exactly why I posted. No one should immediately join anything because someone recommended it on a forum without taking the time to learn exactly what it is they are joining.

[skinski]

Well , I surely hope all decide to look into doing something , but in all likely hood what will happen is the overall majority will continue to moan and gripe and not do a dang thing . I tried to give folk the warnings about these laws last year before the house had ever even voted on it . Very few even paid any att: at all , most just had that additude that the government couldnt stop it. Well here it is several months later and its finally woke everyone up .

[VoxGibson]

Careful about posting this on every thread

[pokerboy841311]

I signed it. :)

[BINSBUDDIES]

my name is on the list :cool:

[shirun]

dunno of it this helps anyone, but i got this mail from another site:

"Despite some recent changes in the payment processing industry, we want you to know that, as a current Click2Pay user, you can still easily and safely transfer money between Click2Pay and XXXXX using your personal bank account or credit card.

You can still play in all of your favorite ring games and tournaments at XXXXX without worrying about establishing a new payment processor account with another provider.

We also want to remind you that your money is always safe and secure while it's on deposit at our site, and that we remain dedicated to providing you with the best online poker experience anywhere."

[juliez71]

Im all signed up sry didnt see this earlier :wave:

[FLOPZILLA]

I have a medical :eek: smokers card lol ......

[machill]

I am a U.S poker player and click 2 pay will allow me to deposit money on but will not allow me to withdrawl money i was just wondering what other U.S poker players are doing now days

[NutFlopper]

Fed Ex Check, works great, Very happy customer here.

[JT1521]

I take it you don't mind the $28 fee they charge for a check. Hell with that I will wait for more ewallets to be added to withdraw into.

[SteelmanJohn]

13924

[xpander1216]

Fed Ex Check, works great, Very happy customer here.

Just happy to get it out while you still could eh Nut ;) after all, we all know online poker for US players is dead and almost covered over in the grave and working on the tombstone.

just a matter of time.

[NutFlopper]

Just happy to get it out while you still could eh Nut ;) after all, we all know online poker for US players is dead and almost covered over in the grave and working on the tombstone.

just a matter of time.

Been meaning to withdraw for ever, click2pay, and neteller never let me open an account.

Glad their companies are Dying right now.

[NutFlopper]

I take it you don't mind the $28 fee they charge for a check. Hell with that I will wait for more ewallets to be added to withdraw into.

Heres how I think of it.

All the money in my account, is from everyone else... not me.

So everyone else is paying the $28 for me to have their money.

The system works

[Miklosik]

i see that the PPA has hired former senator D'Mato as a lobbyist. Not a bad move as he already knows most of the ppl on Capitol Hill.

[scotlady]

UIGEA NEWS ALERT

The office of US Congressman Barney Frank, who is chairman of the House financial services committee, has confirmed that he is currently working on legislation to repeal the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act.

The news item appeared on Wednesday afternoon on the Financial Times website and has been confirmed to eGaming Review by Frank’s press department. The details of how any repeal would take action have not been worked out and no timeframe was given.

Frank is quoted as describing last autumn’s Act as one of the “stupidest laws” ever passed and adds: “I am working on legislation to cut back on this internet gambling thing… I think it’s preposterous”.

While rumours of Barney Frank’s support for a repeal of the Act had been circulating around the egaming industry in the past few weeks, Frank himself had not confirmed or commented on them. Shares in PartyGaming, 888 and Sportingbet were all up this afternoon.

The FT says the mid-term Democratic victory in the US Congress brought some hope to the online gaming sector and John Conyers, chairman of the House judiciary committee, is also considered sympathetic to the industry.

But while Frank and Conyers are “powerful potential allies, it is far from clear that the lawmakers would have enough support to pass any meaningful legislation” because it is not clear “whether the votes would be there for a regulatory bill”.

The FT adds that the US treasury is currently drafting the rules to implement the Act but that the deadline for presenting them has been missed and is now expected in April or May.

[Miklosik]

It is my understanding that an agreement has been reached between the the US Attorney General and Neteller execs that will release the funds of US customers that are currently frozen. Neteller said that within the next 75 days details will be worked out to get money back to their owners. Somewhat disturbing though is the fact that the details of this agreement have not been released. What did Neteller have to give up to get this money? I hope it wasn't names, addresses, account numbers and balances of it's customers. Although, I suppose if the government wanted that information they could come across it easily enough.

[Miklosik]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/article/8639
anyone interested in the PPA might want to try to catch this

[skinski]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news/article/8639
anyone interested in the PPA might want to try to catch thisYou dont have to be a member of the PPA for this . Here's the run down from the President of the PPA :

Dear PPA Member:

If you have not done so already, please sign up for the Poker Players Alliance Chat with Senator Alfonse D'Amato. Register today by going to the PPA Web site, <http://www.pokerplayersalliance.org (http://www.pokerplayersalliance.org/)> and clicking on the red REGISTER NOW button under PPA In Action.

Please remember that the WebCast will run live at 3pm EST on Thursday, April 12th. You will need to be online at this time to be part of this exciting discussion about the future of poker.

Thank you for your continued support.

Michael Bolcerek, President

Poker Players Alliance

[SteelmanJohn]

I received and interesting e-mail today and thought I would share it.
Here is a copy of it.


Dear Fellow PPA Member:

I have wonderful news to report! On Thursday, April 26, Rep. Barney Frank introduced HR 2046, the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act of 2007. HR 2046 will lift the prohibition on playing poker online. Your efforts are making a difference!

Representative Frank is the Chairman of the important House Financial Services Committee. And he understands the injustice that we have suffered. When he introduced the bill, he told reporters that “The existing legislation is an inappropriate interference on the personal freedom of Americans and this interference should be undone”.

But he can’t do this job alone. Now, we need to help Congressman Frank build support for his bill.

You can regain your right to enjoy safe, secure online poker – but only if you stand up for your rights. And PPA is here to help you do just that.

This is a landmark day for freedom. But it is only the first step of the process. Join me in celebrating this milestone – and take action to build support for HR 2046.

And a little more information.

http://activate.pokerplayersalliance.org/start.php?rindex=1

[scotlady]

I see poker.com have introduced more depositing options, cool. Glad to see they doing what they can to keep our mates here:D

ACH/PinDebit

http://pindebit.net/


eWalletXpress

https://www.ewalletxpress.com/navaho/app

:D :crown: :crown:

[LooTownAce]

Almost 15,000 now..

[PatJaMa]

This site is safe to play right? Is any other big sites good to play?

[scotlady]

By Aaron Todd (Casino City)
20 Jun 2007

I met with Jim Gordon, a staffer for my Congressman, Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.), this afternoon. My Congressman has been holding "Open Office" hours for the last two weeks to let his constituents voice their opinions on issues we feel he should be addressing.

I talked about Internet gambling.

I told him that I believed that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act was not an effective means of controlling Internet gambling, and I asked that Rep. Lynch take another look at the issue. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), the Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, recently held a hearing that explored the feasibility of regulating the industry, and there are several bills in the House that would change the U.S. stance on the $15.5 billion industry.

I'm pretty well versed in this stuff (it is my job, after all). And Gordon admitted that he didn't know much about the issue, so I did my best to educate him.

I explained that the UIGEA was passed because former Senate majority leader Bill Frist attached the bill to the Safe Ports Act. I explained that it's ineffective and that millions of Americans continue to gamble online today. And I detailed how the U.S. had lost a World Trade Organization case to Antigua as a result of its stance on Internet gambling, and that now Antigua and the European Union are demanding compensation since the U.S. seems determined to ignore the ruling by changing its international commitments in the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS).

I also had plenty of information at my fingertips. I told Gordon that 23 million Americans play poker online. I told him that the Poker Players Alliance had seen its membership grow to over 570,000 in the last year. And I told him that Quantria Strategies estimated that regulating online poker alone could bring in $3.3 billion in tax revenues for the U.S. government.

"That could pay for a day and a half in Iraq," Gordon said.

I went in armed with ammunition, not to attack, but to educate. Gordon, who went into the conversation not knowing much about the issue, agreed that the legislation didn't seem to make much sense. Now he doesn't speak for how Rep. Lynch feels about the issue (he voted for the UIGEA last July), but I know that Gordon will pass my message along. Hopefully, my Congressman will reconsider his vote when the next piece of legislation on Internet gambling comes across his desk.

When Gordon and I were wrapping up our conversation, I guessed that he didn't think that he'd be talking about Internet gambling today, did he?

"We get all types of concerns in these meetings," Gordon said. "From the person who wants the crosswalk on their street repainted to people who are concerned about the war in Iraq. You never know what you're going to get."

Our Congressmen are busy people. They are pulled in dozens of directions by a variety of issues, some of which, to be perfectly honest, are much more important than the future of Internet gambling in America.

But I believe that most Congressmen, when presented with the facts, will agree that the UIGEA is not a good law. So let the education process begin. Write letters. Go to open office hours, if your Congressman offers them. Get a clear, well-reasoned argument for regulation across, and maybe the momentum for change will build.

[mad4Cards]

By Aaron Todd (Casino City)
20 Jun 2007
And I told him that Quantria Strategies estimated that regulating online poker alone could bring in $3.3 billion in tax revenues for the U.S. government.

"That could pay for a day and a half in Iraq," Gordon said.



I'm sure this is not what most online poker players in US want to hear!:eek:

[carz990]

Its my understanding neteller are not based in the states ( i may be wrong) so why dont they tell american congress where to stick it. I remember when a new movie was released couple years back a swedish based site was hosting it before it was released in the cinema, as a torrent on there site. The american owners of the movie contacted them and demanded the removal of the torrent (a download of the movie). The reply was this dear xxxx its the view of us and our solicitors that you are morons your law does not apply here.

[Miklosik]

here is the problem carz. while these ewallet sites are not based in the US, their owners like to live here, play here, enjoy all life has to offer here. so if they do not comply with US laws, they find thier butts behind US bars.

[ChipChick]

oh dear

[carz990]

here is the problem carz. while these ewallet sites are not based in the US, their owners like to live here, play here, enjoy all life has to offer here. so if they do not comply with US laws, they find thier butts behind US bars.

lol, i see good reason then

[PlaidDiamond]

14632

[Miklosik]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/9230

[Miklosik]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/9809/judge-in-imega-case-needs-time-to-ponder
This will drag on for years. So as a temporary solution may I suggest the following. Instead of using 4 different suits in a deck, use 4 different kinds of horses. Don't call them ring games, call them races. Don't call it a tournament, call it a lottery. Then all would be legal once again in the good old US

[Miklosik]

and so it begins
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/article/10247/judiciary-hearing-on-internet-gambling-wednesday

[lena411]

boo

at least i dont live in Massachusetts :beaten: link thx to friend

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/10/internet_gambling_is_a_target_of_patrick_bill/

"But in trying to ban online gambling while expanding casinos, the governor's administration appears to be alienating a constituency that might otherwise support his gambling expansion." = main idea of the whole thing

[finicky]

Hmmmm. Wonder who is filling his pockets with money? Maybe the 3 casinos he's backing, you think! Crooked ********, most of them.

[blindfury]

thanks skinski, signed it

[hdfree]

boo

at least i dont live in Massachusetts :beaten: link thx to friend

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/10/internet_gambling_is_a_target_of_patrick_bill/

"But in trying to ban online gambling while expanding casinos, the governor's administration appears to be alienating a constituency that might otherwise support his gambling expansion." = main idea of the whole thing

Gov. Patrick is TRYING to bring back the BEE GEEs ! *LOL*:D



www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWYefe9EzI

[seakcsn]

signed it. only 15k people though, how many play in the u.s.?

[doorgod2]

15293 thanks for the chance to sign it

[LadyVision]

I see how old this thread is.. the petition being out of date.
Wonder if others are aware of ongoing letters to representatives at
http://capwiz.com/pokerplayersalliance/mailapp/

[BLUZFAN5]

i am all for legalizing online poker as long as EVERY poker site has a good deal of oversite. case in point. i just withdrew my entire account from carbonpoker and even tho i have been thru the identification process i was still denied the money after the 48 hr wait period that the FAQ says is normal. i sent an email asking why and they said i have to wait 3-5 business days because it needed to be "manually" approved. i withdrew money a few months ago no problem, why the wait this time? i was given the runaround, go figure, and then told customer service isnt available on weekends, this despite it was 12:15. my point is if a withdrawal is requested it should be honored by the site and and paid out within that 48hrs. if carbonpoker or any other site cant or wont honor it then maybe the US govt. has this right. as much as it pains me to say that.

[xwinmuch]

i am all for legalizing online poker as long as EVERY poker site has a good deal of oversite. case in point. i just withdrew my entire account from carbonpoker and even tho i have been thru the identification process i was still denied the money after the 48 hr wait period that the FAQ says is normal. i sent an email asking why and they said i have to wait 3-5 business days because it needed to be "manually" approved. i withdrew money a few months ago no problem, why the wait this time? i was given the runaround, go figure, and then told customer service isnt available on weekends, this despite it was 12:15. my point is if a withdrawal is requested it should be honored by the site and and paid out within that 48hrs. if carbonpoker or any other site cant or wont honor it then maybe the US govt. has this right. as much as it pains me to say that.

I have withdrawed several times here and it's always these 3-5 business days.
Compared to other sites this is indeed very slow.:(

[fritzson]

I have withdrawed several times here and it's always these 3-5 business days.
Compared to other sites this is indeed very slow.:(


I have done some withdrawals from here too... few weeks before the update
I had to wait a few min for my withdrawal to arrive my moneybookers.
Now I have to wait 3-5 working days as on other sites. I don't know why it became slower.

I heard from the support that it depends on how who are before me.

Since the end of March something has happened on that front for sure, it was
first time I had to wait for 5 days. :(

[ZER007]

I've withdrew here 4 or 5 times in the past with no trouble and I believe no charge. I withdrew a month ago and I am still waiting on my check, of which they charged $25 buck for a processing fee. It stinks. Some other sites are charging processing fees now too. As for me I'll play on the sites that don't. Goodbye Merge Network.

[Hoackie3]

has anyone tried to make a neteller deposit in the last couple of days? I had read somewhere that effective 7 november, they would follow US law and stop transfers to gambling sites.

cant remember exactly how long ago it was when US started their crusade against internet gambling but thinking 2-3 yrs ago. Net eller was available to americans and i was using it, when they (net eller) closed up to americans my whole balance was seized by govt. had talked to many that same thing happened to. just to let americans with a net eller account know u might wanna reduce or empty those accounts...........

[SirLostaLot]

I'm in #15,556 I think.